Bonaire, Turks and caicos and Grand Cayman...Which one?

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So i am planning the trip for this year. it is an important trip because is the last trip BEFORE a baby comes up...so after the baby, diving vacations will be on hold until we feel comfortable to bring the mother in law to take care of the baby while we dive....

We are looking land based. wife does not like the idea about being on a boat 24/7(which i disagree with her), so no live aboards..

we are flying from DFW

i checked some tickets today... ticket to grand cayman 500 usd... ticket to bonaire 1000... per person..
diving and lodging and diving is around 900 usd per person.. cayman 1600 per person...

at the end is the same flying to cayman is cheaper and diving is expensive... flying to bonaire is expensive but cheap diving...

in general our budget is around $4k to 5k...


so if you have gone to all 3 of this places or 2 of this places...



which one you will say...DEFINETLY I GO BACK HERE?...
 
Bonaire.

We have done many repeat trips to both Bonaire and t&c (and Belize, but it is a live aboard). Have been to cayman brac, but not grand cayman.

I would rule out t&c since the land based day boat trips can be long - 30 to 60 minutes. We now use a live aboard in t&c. And you have crossed them off the list.

Cayman is a populated island that has some diving. Bonaire is a diving island that has some population.

So it depends upon what you value most. If the prices are equal then provide some other criteria, I am sure you can get lots of useful feedback.

P.S. if you are comparing prices, cayman food will be higher than Bonaire.

I am also curious why live aboards are a no no? If she is susceptible to sea sickness, well okay. If not? Why not?
 
If you are planning a trip to Cayman and your trip is primarily for diving I would suggest Cayman Brac or Little Cayman.
 
I would rule out t&c since the land based day boat trips can be long - 30 to 60 minutes. We now use a live aboard in t&c. And you have crossed them off the list.

Cayman is a populated island that has some diving. Bonaire is a diving island that has some population.

The T & C (where I have lived) consists of about 40 islands. It sounds as is Giffenk is speaking specifically of Provo. On Grand Turk, for example, the boat rides are very short: 5 - 10 minutes. Same on Salt Cay.

"Cayman" is 3 islands. There is good diving on all 3 but on Grand Cayman the diving in the East End is superior to the West side.

I have never dived Bonaire. The diving I have described in Cayman is more or less equaled by the diving on several islands of the T&C. I would make your selection based on non-diving criteria.
 
Thanks go the input...

Well, after diving we would like to go to the town walk around and eat some local food.

I liked the comment about that cayman is a populated island with diving and bonaire is a diving island.


Bonaire boat or shore based?
 
Alex777 is correct. I was referring to Provo and totally forgot that t&c has other diving destinations. Oops. I have no experience with the other islands, but have heard good things about them. I believe they are more like cayman brac - small and quiet.

On Bonaire you can do shore, boat or both. Your choice. And you can change your mind every day if you wish.

Many people rent a truck and then drive all over the island doing shore dives. Most packages include unlimited refills. Others do boat dives - the various operations offer up to 3 single tank dives per day or some do a 2 tank morning dive and a 1 tank afternoon dive. We stay at a water side resort (divi) and do a combo of dock dives right off the resort and afternoon boat dives (and a dock night dive). We do not bother renting a truck and dragging tanks around. Too much effort. For those wanting more adventurous dives, you can look into the wild side (east side) of the island.

The divi is also located right on the edge of town, so there are many restaurants within a 15 minute walk.
 
I've been to all three. Hands down, I'd book the Bonaire trip. It's diving freedom - dive when and where you like. The sites are all beautiful, filled with life. Restaurants, great hotels, food is good, people are friendly.
 
For me the difference is what you want to see.

Cayman/Turks & Caicos is more bigger stuff, sharks, rays, tarpon etc. Also it's often deeper diving off spectacular vertical walls - some drop several thousand feet under you.

Bonaire is more macro/small stuff, frogfish, seahorses, lobster etc. You struggle to find a "wall" there. I would give the edge to Bonaire for sheer profusion of life though, lots of fish, live coral, fans, etc.

All three have turtles, we saw the most on Grand Cayman (it's their nat'l symbol and the turtle farm is there) But we also saw quite a few off West Caicos and Klein Bonaire. We saw the most sharks off the more remote T/C islands, West Caicos, French Cay - a 45min. ride from Provo on a faster day boat. I don't think you'll see a shark off Bonaire. Lots of Tarpon on Grand Cayman, both at Devils Grotto and Turtle Reef (both shore dives) You see them on Bonaire during the day and they'll hunt in your lights at night. Not counting Stingray City we saw more rays in the Turks/Caicos, there always seemed to be Stingrays laying around near the moorings. Although there were several flights of Eagle Rays at different sites off Grand Cayman.

The best mix might be Grand Cayman if you're willing to work at it. The boat operators will pick you up for spectacular wall diving, in the afternoons you can shore dive at almost a dozen sites and take a trip either by boat or drive to the East End for a different experience. Provo has no shore diving and the wall off Grand Turk is a longer swim out from what I was told by a local.

Bonaire of course is all shore diving. The only reason to get on a boat there is to dive Klein Bonaire or the few sites inaccessible/difficult from shore. We did 4 days of 2 tank boat dives our first trip, it was probably too much. One thing I personally experienced is there's often a sameness in Bonaire sites, same general topography, same fish, etc. Once my buddy asked me if we hadn't "dove this site" earlier in the week. I could make the same point about Curacao - we dove several sites there where I told my friends - by diving here you've just been to Bonaire.

One other aspect of Bonaire shore diving is that although (by a large margin) there's the most there, it's far from "effortless" Good boots and sure footing are required, some sites are a short hike from the parking area and many entries are difficult - over sharp ironshore with coral rubble underfoot in the surf line. At some you can look for breaks in the ironshore or previous divers may have piled up coral rubble indicating the best entry points. Get a sense of that by reviewing the site listings here: http://www.shorediving.com/Earth/ABC/index.htm

And every site outside of town is unimproved with no facilities - in the afternoons many times we were the only ones there. I personally like that but you're on your own if something happens also. All the typical Cayman shore dives have facilities on-site. You also do a lot of tank hauling on Bonaire - the trucks are even set up for it, many have tank racks in the back.

One of the better Bonaire dives was Salt Pier. Neither Provo or GC have anything like that. Cayman has better wrecks, including the Kittiwake - a non-wreck cert required dive. And Stingray City - it's fun once.

Of the three, the best diving I've done is Turks/Caicos, followed by Grand Cayman then Bonaire. Land based, I would reverse T/C and Cayman. As mentioned above, I've only been to Provo also for two days b4/after a liveaboard.

For some idea of what to expect at each location - besides Youtube/Vimeo videos, here are some links:
http://www.bonairepanoramas.com/underwater.html
http://idiveglobal.com/locations/
http://www.awoosh.com/Saudio/Saudio_Turks&Caicos.html - thanks to Mike Southard for this. We did this two years ago.

If you're looking to stay somewhere to walk to town - you'd probably need to stay in the expensive Grace Bay area on Provo. Downtown Grand Cayman is pretty much walking distance only from Sunset House - from Seven Mile Beach it's a short drive/bus ride south. There really isn't any resort properties in downtown Georgetown, they're mostly further north on SMB.

On Bonaire you'd likely need to stay at the Divi Flamingo to walk to town, many of the resorts are in "resort row" north of town or south near/past the airport/lagoon in Belnem. There's a few properties in town but they don't have the best house reefs - if any. The north resorts do, several are on named dive sites.

One other aspect to consider is that there is almost daily cruise traffic in Grand Cayman - often multiple ships. They all tender in right downtown. It's a good time to be someplace else. When the cruisers leave, some of downtown shuts down. Bonaire also gets cruise ships now, IDK the frequency. Since Kralendijk is much smaller, that must be a mess also. They moor at Town Pier - ruining what used to be a great dive - orange cup coral don't like being silted over by ship thrusters. In T/C the cruise port is on Grand Turk, never been there so IDK what that's like.

Most people going to Bonaire or Grand Cayman often try to do at least some cooking - typically requiring renting a condo instead of staying at a resort. Most resorts on Bonaire are condos. Food is expensive at any of them - it's part of living on a small island where everything is imported. Cayman is the only place where we made a concerted effort to at least cook part of the time. The CI$ is fixed at .80 to the US$ so you're 20% down b4 you arrive. It makes a difference, on Bonaire we had many meals that were around the same price as what you'd pay in a major U.S. city, on Cayman everything was noticeably higher. One advantage Cayman has is that the U.S. chains are there - for some of the quicker meals anyway. We only ate at 3 different places on Provo and I don't recall any of them being noticeably excessive.

Seven Mile Beach is nice, Grace Bay is georgeous. Bonaire is a desert island so it's unexpectedly hot, dry and in some places rockier than I expected. The south is really flat though, at some sites you can see divers at the next 3-4 sites farther down. If you're interested in any sort of nightlife besides sitting around resort bars, you'll want Grand Cayman or Provo. Provo has a (small) casino (or two) Bonaire has the barefoot casino at Divi Flamingo.

To answer your original question - I'll go back to Turks/Caicos. Grand Cayman also when I can talk my friends into it. Bonaire probably not until I've dove my way thru the Caribbean. Except for Cozumel, I've been to many of what are typically considered the "best" Caribbean dive locations - we do 1-2 weeks per year - somewhere different each time.
 
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Have not done Bonaire. But we've done both Provo and Salt Cay diving as well as Cayman Brac. Provo diving means a lot of boat time. Steve-no way is French Cay 45mins away, more like 80-90mins. We got back around 3:30pm-4pm on those 2 days we did French Cay. That being said they were great dive sites. However we have spent the previous week diving Salt Cay. Being done by noon and spending the surface interval on land was perfect for us and was small group diving vs the Provo big boat. We are going to Grand Turk next year which is the same but has more dive sites, cheaper accomodations and more variety of places to eat and easy(er) access to groceries than Salt Cay.

The Brac has great diving but not much else to do and limited restaurant options IMO. We ate mostly in our villa and many times hit the supermarket (there are 3!) to pick up a roast chicken or other hot plate items after diving. We are going back to the Brac as well. Dive sites are close too but surface interval is on the boat, if that matters.
 
Steve-no way is French Cay 45mins away, more like 80-90mins. We got back around 3:30pm-4pm on those 2 days we did French Cay. That being said they were great dive sites.
Maybe you were on the wrong boat...:wink:

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