Roatan: Malaria? Viz in May/June?

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Hi all,

New to the board but have already picked up a slew of good info. I wondering if anti-malarial meds are required for a MAy June trip. Anyone have a feeling about this?

ALSO: How's the Viz down there at the end of may/beginning of June? Someone tipped me to seasonal rpoblems. Anything i should worry about? (Obviously, we're planijng a trip in that time frame)

TIA

Nelson
 
handel27:
Hi all,

New to the board but have already picked up a slew of good info. I wondering if anti-malarial meds are required for a MAy June trip. Anyone have a feeling about this?

ALSO: How's the Viz down there at the end of may/beginning of June? Someone tipped me to seasonal rpoblems. Anything i should worry about? (Obviously, we're planijng a trip in that time frame) Nelson

The malaria thing has been pretty well discussed here previously. It depends largely on which resort you're going to visit combined with your tolerance for risk/bennefit of taking the drugs. I've been to CoCoView a bunch of times and never seen a mosquito. If I leave the resort, I drench myself in DEET.

The same applies to your viz question. Certain resorts are very near developed areas and suffer reduced viz from run off after rains. You are talking about a traditionaly rain free month, so I wouldn't sweat it.

Enjoy the macro life of Roatan. Go slow and see the cool stuff.
 
RoatanMan:
It depends largely on which resort you're going to visit combined with your tolerance for risk/bennefit of taking the drugs. I've been to CoCoView a bunch of times and never seen a mosquito. If I leave the resort, I drench myself in DEET.

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We're thinking of staying in a private home near AKR in Sandy Bay. I'll check the archives for the discussion past, but it would be great to hear a current read on the situation, given the late rainy season this year.

thanks toya

/nelson
 
handel27:
We're thinking of staying in a private home near AKR in Sandy Bay. I'll check the archives for the discussion past, but it would be great to hear a current read on the situation, given the late rainy season this year.

thanks toya

/nelson

Now that's some info I can work with. An excellent reference you make- as there are two Sandy Bays on Roatan! This is area is chock full of North American vacation homes- it was the first such enclave on the island. It is located on the North side, near AKR as you mention, also fairly close by to BIBR and IoLR. (CCV and FIBR are over the ridge line on the S side)

There has been extensive development in Sandy Bay causing a lot of run-off locally. This is irrelevant in terms of diving because you dive the North side well outside of the first barrier reef. This May time frame is probably your best chance for favorable weather for North side diving and surface conditions. Viz should be fine. :wink:

The entire North side of the island is shadowed from any breeze by the ridgeline that divides the island. This ridge is also very close to this North side, so houses and neighborhoods are tucked in hollows and little valleys. This creates a tremendous opportunity for bugs. May should be getting on to be dry, and obviously mosquitos like wet. There is plenty of water standing nearby in the island dump, near Hotasparrow.

The Sand Fleas also inhabit dedcaying vegetable matter that is also descriptive of these areas. This includes not only wooden boards (Wolmanized or not) as well as plants, leaves, shoreline interdtidal wash zones, etc. I would be very consistent with DEET and possibly maybe almost consider the prophylaxis meds for Malaria depending upon the age/condition of the subject- or not.

Malaria is simply not a big issue on the island. Worry about the sand flies. :eyebrow:
 
You might find this helpful. It's an updated edited version of my "Ask RSD" column in the Oct '99 issue of "Rodale's Scuba Diving."

"Sand fleas & mosquitoes can be a real bother, not to mention that they are sources of some serious tropical diseases.

The danger & bother of insects can be substantially reduced by these precautions: (1) Wear long sleeves and pants, avoiding dark or bright colors, especially at dawn and dusk. Protective clothing such as the "Buzz Off" brand can be useful. As an extra precaution, you may treat clothing with permethrin (As in the easy to use Sawyer Products http://www.permethrin-repellent.com ) ; (2) Try to stay indoors at dawn and dusk when many flying insects are most active, and avoid sandy areas as much as possible at any time of day, especially when there is no breeze. When making reservations, make sure the resort has screened windows; (3) Wear insect repellent. The best protection against these and other insects is full strength DEET. Some divers like things such as Avon's Skin-So-Soft & Cactus Juice, less toxic products than DEET, by the science is solidly behind DEET for lasting effectiveness. Most DEET containing repellents are the 15-30% range of concentration. The testing of various strengths of DEET has shown that after about 30% little additional effectiveness is to be had by upping the strength, and even less after about 50%. As such, there is simply no point in exposing oneself to more potent brews. UltraThon at 32% http://www.3m.com/us/home_leisure/ultrathon/ appears to be a good product. Used as directed over relatively brief periods of time, say a week, DEET has been shown to pose no significant risk when applied to exposed skin. If you wear lightweight, loose fitting clothes, it generally is safe to use DEET underneath. Doing so with heavy, snug fitting clothes can result in dermatological problems & worse. Be aware that DEET can dissolve synthetics like plastics, rayon & nylon, so it's best to wear natural fibers & keep it off of your gear; (4) Avoid scented toiletries and perfumes; (5) Upon arrival, treat your room with a bug bomb such as Shelltox or Fish (stay outside while this is being done). Touch up with spray after that as needed."

As for malaria, there are reported cases of malaria on Roatan, although to the best of my knowledge not at a high incidence rate. The majority of divers I know who frequent Roatan do not take malaria medication prophylactically if they are not planning to go over to the mainland for touring.

As with many things in scuba & foreign travel, the level of risk one is willing assume is a personal decision. However, malaria is a nasty disease, and the conservative CDC guidelines would be appropriate for those wishing to reduce risks to a very low level. These can be found by clicking here----> CDC Travelers' Health--Health Information for Travelers to Mexico and Central America http://www.cdc.gov/travel/camerica.htm .

If one decides to take an anti-malarial prophylactically, care must be taken in choosing the drug as some may not mix well with scuba, e.g.,----> Concerns About Lariam http://dive.scubadiving.com/talk/read.php?f=1&i=204092&t=203844 . At present, chloroquine (e.g., Aralen) is largely recommended for the Honduras, and it tends to be tolerated well & to pose little threat to scuba.

If you decide that malaria chemoprophylaxis may be for you, contact your nearest tropical diseases/travel medicine clinic. They'll get you squared away. And, don't wait until the last minute. The following websites may be of assistance in locating such a facility:

International Society of Travel Medicine http://www.istm.org

American Society of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene (ASTMH)
http://www.astmh.org/scripts/clinindex.asp

This is educational only and does not constitute or imply a doctor-patient relationship. It is not medical advice to you or any other individual, and should not be construed as such.

Best regards.

DocVikingo
 
Maybe DocVikingo can comment on this... I am headed to Utila this weekend (YAHOO!!!...ahem), and I saw my local travel doc about malaria prophylaxis and hepatitis A/B shots. I got the hep vaccination, but the doctor told me that while chloroquine IS preventative against some types of malaria (the type you might be exposed to in Africa, for example), it is NOT preventative against the type of malaria that is prevalent in Central America. It simply delays clinical signs.

I found this information corroborated on the internet at this site:
http://www.rph.wa.gov.au/labs/haem/malaria/prophylaxis.html

I opted to take a bunch of DEET with me...and ditch the chloroquine. I'd be very interested to see how others respond!
 
We were recently in Roatan (January 2004) and got the hep shots and took the chloroquine. We used bug spray and didn't have any problems. We figured we would be better safe than sorry. The cholorquine was not covered by insurance so we had to pay for it out of pocket. I think it was like $70 for 13 pills. It was take 1 pill a week for 6 weeks before until 6 weeks after the trip.

We were with other people who did not do the shots or the pills and noboby had any problems. I guess there are a lot of factors and luck as to whether you get any illness or not.
 
I am far from an expert in malaria & my information may be dated. Therefore, I will refrain from detailed comment on the opinion & article that you have presented, although I do feel that they are potentially misleading in a number of respects.

For example, persistent liver forms of P. vivax (prevalent in some areas of the Honduras) & P. ovale, which indeed can remain quiescent for many, many months, well may be refractory to any currently known chemoprophylactic regimen. And, this does not mean that chloroquine is without any preventative value in the Honduras.

Moreover, even in a traveler infected with a more routine form in the final days of a trip there is nothing extraordinary about onset of symptoms several weeks after return home, with a confirmed diagnosis not occurring until some time after that.

I would also note that the CDC http://www.cdc.gov/travel/camerica.htm, MDtravelhealth.com
http://www.mdtravelhealth.com/destinations/mamerica_carib/honduras.html & WHO http://www.who.int/ith/countrylist06.html, amongst other recognized & respected sources of expert travel medicine advice, all recommend that if one is going to take something for the prevention of malaria in Central America/Honduras, cholorquine is the drug of choice.

Be this as it may, when one has received an opinion from a travel medicine specialist, who one must assume has rendered it based on the latest disease statistics and research on the transmission, pathogenesis & prevention/treatment of malaria, it would seem wise to accord that assessment heavy weight in the decision making process.

This is educational only and does not constitute or imply a doctor-patient relationship. It is not medical advice to you or any other individual, and should not be construed as such.

Best regards.

DocVikingo

PS: Have blast in Utila.
 
I consider DocV as good of an expert as you can find; still...

I didn't bother with Malaria preventative meds the first time I went, but then - I spoke with several natives who had had malaria, and I had more than one round of flu-like illnesses that following winter. Scared me everytime. :11:

Next time, I took the med, and this summer for Belize - already got the script filled. The once a week med seems to be pretty gentle.

BTW, if you see bats flying around - like in the lunch hall at Fantasy Island, that's a good thing. They eat a lot of skeeters. If you see one on the ground, that's a bad thing, as they can have rabies; give it plenty of room.

I kept a can of skeeter repellent in my room and a can in my dive locker, respraying each time I left either.

Have fun.

The above is offered by an amateur who knows little of which he's addressing - just likes to give opions. :wink:
 
An easy way to keep the skeeter AND SANDFLIES from making vampire fodder of you is to take some surgical scrubs along with you. We call it 'body armor down here. It provides a protective barrier between you and the critters, it's comfortable and airy and besides.....it make you look pretty kewllllll. Just don't wear them around the island hospitals or you'll be swamped with new sick or injured friends.
Another preventative is a tonic water on island that I believe is called "quinac". This of course has Quienine <sp> (sorry to lazy to be correct). It's not exactly a prevetative but it can't hurt.
BTW, there IS an above average outbreak of malaria in the western half of the island (where you'll be).
As for vis.......don't worry, be hoppy! It'll be great at that time of year.
 
https://www.shearwater.com/products/teric/

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