Wreckmania #2

[Natasha]

Yes, we have the details finalized now!

The Place: Rettger Resorts Beach Club www.rettgerresorts.com
Address: 100 NE 20th Terrace
Deerfield beach, FL 33441
Phone 954-427-7900
The trip will include:
4 night stay July 19th to the 23rd 2002
YMCA Wreck certification
3 days of 2 tank morning wreck dives
Huge boat called: Lady go Diver
Dive operator: Dixie Diver www.dixiediver.com
All hotel taxes @ 11% a day
Daily continental breakfast
Daily Bar B Que lunch .. Hot Dogs, Hamburgers, and sides
Daily Bar B Que Dinners.. Pork Chops, Chicken, Brats, Italian Sausage, and special surprises ...
Also, included is a guarantee to have a great time, and meet lots of life long friends!
Prices in the next post.

[Natasha]

We have the whole resort blocked. I am posting prices for 12 of the 16 rooms. The other 4 are suites. If you want prices on the suites email me. I'm going to try to make this as simple as possible. Please post on this thread only if you ARE planning on going.

We have two rooms that are non ocean view rooms.
1 room with 1 king bed and 1 room with 2 double beds.
# A :Prices are 525.98 per person with two in either room
Or
#B: If you want either room to yourself 656.96 total

Next: There are 4 rooms at the next price. They are ocean view. 1 with 2 double beds and 3 with Kings
# C: Prices are 570.98 each for two in the room
Or
# D: 745.76 for your own room

There are 6 rooms with kitchenettes & ocean views.
4 with double beds and 2 with king beds
Prices are:
#E: 592.98 each for two in the room
OR
# F: 790.16 for your own room

You can post here which room letter you would like. I will get bombed with PMs if you do it there. If you really have a problem with it here, then do it in PMs, but it will take longer to get back to you.
I tried my best to make it easy. Questions, and thoughts post them here.
Thanks! It's going to be a great time!

[Natasha]

After you have decided which room you want it will require a $200.00 per person deposit to hold it.
Final payments will be due May 15th, 2002
While still under deposit, your deposit is refundable if you need to cancel. Once it is paid in full it is non refundable.
Several people will have autos so rides ( less then 1 mile) to the dive shop and boat will be included. No need to rent a car.

:sunny:

[scuba-sass]

Count Lyd and I in for a category E, preferrably one of the king beds.

Rooms, Dives and FOOD - all for under $600 pp! You are fabulous, Natasha!

Scuba-sass :-)

[scuba-sass]

Where do we send the $$$?

Scuba-sass :-)

[Natasha]

Sass:
OK you guys are IN!
Send and make deposits to:
Coast to Coast Travel
1135 Elder Road
Homewood, IL.
60430
PS I enjoyed talking to you on the phone too. Diving together is going to be even better!

:sunny:

[Dee]

Hotel, diving, food AND a Walter class for less than $600? Best deal I've had in a long time!

You and Walter have done a great job, Mom.

Count Beast and I in for a catagory E room.

Where do I send the deposit?

[Natasha]

Dee:
Great! Also, wonderul talking to you ( for almost and hour) the other day too.
You and Beast are IN. Since Beast is so big, do you want the two double beds, or a king?

[TexasMike]

Put me in one of the $525 rooms.

And If I can, reserve the other bed in the room for Pete (if he's going)

[Dee]

Originally posted by Natasha
Dee:
Great! Also, wonderul talking to you ( for almost and hour) the other day too.
You and Beast are IN. Since Beast is so big, do you want the two double beds, or a king?

Great talking to you, too. I couldn't believe we talked that long!

Since Beast likes to migrate sideways on the bed, ;) go ahead and give us the doubles..he can have a whole bed to himself! Plus it will give us a staging area for our stuff!

PM me with an address for the deposit and I'll get it to ya pronto.

Are you sure it's a good idea to put TM and Pete in the same room :confused:

[TexasMike]

Originally posted by Natasha
No need to rent a car.Airport pick up service will be handled by.......?

And what airport to fly into?

[TexasMike]

Originally posted by Dee
Are you sure it's a good idea to put TM and Pete in the same room :confused: :mission: But don'tcha want to try to keep the jokesters corralled in the same area versus spread apart?

[Dee]

Do we have a choice of ground floor or in the air? If so, I'd prefer a room at ground level....stairs kill my bad knee!


But don'tcha want to try to keep the jokesters corralled in the same area versus spread apart?

Well...you do have a point. Beast can just handcuff you both in one room! :thumb:

[Natasha]

Dee: I just called. That should not be a problem.
Mike: The room that has two double beds and in that catagory is also a ground level room.

Now for the airport pickup part.

I have learned from past experience to let people get their own transfers. Flights are late or early, and it's very hard to coordinate pick ups.
If you get to know someone who is driving down for this trip, and you ask them very nicely, they might pick you up.
Otherwise, it is 22 miles to the resort from Ft. Lauderdale airport.
If you do have to take a cab, by the time you get to know everyone on the trip, someone might take you back to the airport if you're really nice to them, and share your food!
I will call city hall and ask them if there are busses, but this still will be hard with equipment. I think a cab is best.

[TexasMike]

Cab is fine, and the double bed room is what I was asking for.


Walter said something in the WM#1 thread about shore diving....can you get some details on this?

Does the dock, boat, hotel, dive facility, et. al have a fresh water rinse station so we can soak our gear after the dives?


Oh, and an idea for a future group trip....Photomania where u/w photography is taught.

[Walter]

This is sounding better all the time!

A few additional details dealing with the class/diving.

To take this class you must be a certified diver from a recognized agency at least 18 years of age and have a log with at least 20 dives. I will need a copy of your c-card (front & back). Send the copy of the c-card to Natasha along with your deposit. It is extremely unlikely anyone here has a card from an agency that is not recognized. If you are in doubt send a PM to me. I will be sending a waiver/medical questionaire to everyone. Please return them right away.

We will be strictly following YMCA Wreck Diver standards for all training. You will receive a YMCA Wreck Diver specialty rating upon successful completion of the course.

We will be diving out of Deerfield Beach on the Lady Go Diver. I've dived off this boat many times. It's a very comfortable 48ft vessel with a large head (bathroom). Dixie Divers will be providing tanks and air/nitrox fills. If you need to rent any equipment, they will be providing the rentals. They work very closely with Captain Rob of the Lady Go Diver and are across the parking lot from the boat.

If you are planning to dive nitrox, send a copy of your nitrox card instead of your OW card. Also let us know you intend to use nitrox. Unless I hear otherwise, we'll assume you're diving air.

If you are interested in using nitrox on this trip, but are not yet certified send a PM to me for details on how you can complete your nitrox course.

Special equipment:

Safety sausages are always a good idea when diving in the ocean. Some type of surface signaling device will be required.

We will be discussing streamlining equipment and will be working on gear with that in mind. DIR configuration is not required, but is welcome.

Doubles and pony bottles will be discussed. You are welcome to bring either, but they are not required. I will be diving doubles.

Reels, slates and lights will be required.

Other points:

We will not be making staged decompression dives, although we will simulate it.

We will make limited penetrations of wrecks with the use of reels.

Dive schedule:

7/20 Dive 1 - Ancient Mariner 70 ft
Dive 2 - United Caribbean 70 ft

7/21 Dive 1 - Captain Dan 117 ft We'll stay at 100 ft or shallower
Dive 2 - Jay Doorman 83 ft

7/22 Dive 1 - Captain Dan 117 ft We'll stay at 100 ft or shallower
Dive 2 - RSB One 107 ft We'll stay at 100 ft or shallower

I'm excited!

DSSW,

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[Walter]

Mike,

There is a rinse tub at the dock. The boat also has a hose on board for rinsing cameras and bodies (not gear).

Shore diving is available at the beach by the hotel. There are other shore dives a short drive away. I'll have a list and directions when you arrive.

DSSW,

WWW™

[TexasMike]

Originally posted by Walter
Reels, slates and lights will be required.Since reels can be a bit of an investment, and there are lots of good and bad ones out there, should we start a thread of which have the "WWW" stamp of approval?

And will "Birdsnesting 101" be part of he course outline? :D

[herman]

Walter,

How about dive insurance (DAN, ect), is it required? I suspect that most of us have it (I do) but there maybe some that don't. A lot of the dive ops around here require it so I thought I would bring up the question.

[NetDoc]

We will have to coordinate our Jokemania supplies so we do not duplicate. You bring the whoopee cushion for Natasha and I will bring Walter a wig. I am -IN- (unless of course, I break something else). As for rinse tanks, we call them HOTEL SHOWERS!!!

Uh Walter... how many tanks should I bring? All I can get my hands on?

[SunshineFish]

Whoopee!!! :bounce:

I choose option A.

Natasha - tried to PM you but your mail box is full. Will try later.

[Natasha]

Sandy:
LOL My mailbox is full? Would you believe my mailbox has a capacity of 200 letters? I better go clean my room! Bad Mommy.
Thanks for the heads up.

:sunny:

[Walter]

Insurance is not required, but I wouldn't recommend diving anywhere without it. I carry DAN Preferred Insurance which expires 7/31/02. It will be renewed prior to 7/31. Everyone should check their expiration date and make sure it remains in effect.

If anyone does not have insurance to cover dive related injuries (a DCS hit requires treatment that carries a bil running thousands of dollars) contact DAN for insurance. Member services phone number is 1-800-446--2671. The website is http://www.diversalertnetwork.org

Herman, thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Mike, define "birdnesting." I'll post a list of features your reel will need.

DSSW,

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[TexasMike]

Birdsnesting -- The inevitable knotty problem that happens with all novice real users. Happens when you aren't paying attention and keeping tension on the reel and the line winds around the capstan instead of between the spool sides. Then all you can do is gather it up by hand and surface with your new macrame project.

[Dee]

This trip is sounding better and better! Is it bad Karma to wish the Roatan trip would hurry up and pass?

[Walter]

Mike,

I've never called it birdnesting, but it is definately covered when we discuss and practice reel use.

DSSW,

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[Bob]

Option C, with the double beds. Great deal Natasha. You Da Best. :tree: Bob

[Natasha]

Bob : OK You're covered.
Sunshine: It should be OK now. If that ever happens again email me at Natasha708@aol.com

SwampRat and I talked on the phone today. He's cleared to go. He would like to room with another diver. Anyone interested?

Herman: You didn't say which room type you would like.

:sunny:

[NetDoc]

You give everyone else your E-Mail and your personal Phone # (OK, so you gave TM your 900#) and all I get is a restraining order... waz up wit dat???

[seaangel]

Natasha, please put me down for "B", a king size would be fine for me alone. Wow this is really sounding so good, I am counting down for this already!:D I will be in my Jeep Cherokee and can help with some of the transporting back and forth. Gee, this is so cool, I can hardly stand it. Several of my friends at the LDS are
sooo jealous of me, too bad for them. I am goin to have a great time and come away with a Wreck cert.:bounce:

[Natasha]

Pete: True you haven't been cleared to go yet. Better send me that daytime phone number. You could really be a woman pretending to be this NetDoc guy named Pete.

[Natasha]

We now have 6 rooms left, not counting the suites. By the way the top suite left has one king size bed and a jacuzzi. Interested?
The 2 other suites have a roll away queen sleeper and two bathrooms, in each suite. One has a king bed in it, one has 2 doubles. Catch all that?

The rooms that are still waiting to be filled are as follows:

3 rooms with King beds at 745.00 each
2 rooms with double beds for two people in them at 592.98 each
1 king room kitchenette for 790.16 each.
The resort has two roll away beds we can use for 10.00 more a day.
So if we need to make one of the king bed rooms into a two person room it will bring the price down for each person, but you'll have to take turns on the roll away.

[Natasha]

Thanks to Sandy and Cindy, for agreeing to share a room.
This saved them both money, and opened up the " B" King size room. Price 656.96. Going .. Going ...

[TexasMike]

If the Jacuuzi room was option "A" on your list, I thought that was what I had 'reserved' for myself and Pete (the doubles part of the room)??

Or am I just confused as usual??

[Natasha]

You're not confused. Well, maybe we all are a little ..
You said you wanted the 525.00 room per person. That is option A. It has two double beds in it, so you and Pete don't have to squeeze into a King again ..LoL
Option B is also the lower priced room, a little more for a single person to have it to themslves, but has a King bed in it.
The suite with the jacuzzi doesn't have a letter and I never gave out a price on the suites.
Did I explain that better now?

:sunny:

[Natasha]

Let me explain the suites a bit better.
First off, I will tell you the resort was afraid of getting stuck with them. When there is a large group there, they have a harder time selling the suites to the public. I wanted to make them happy, so I offered to take a suite. I have one with a King Bed and a Jacuzzi. (It's Mother's Day isn't it?)
There is also another suite with a king bed and a jacuzzi available.
The two other suites do not have jacuzzis. One has two double beds in it along with a pull out queen sleeper, and two bathrooms.
The other has all of that but has a king bed in it, instead of the two doubles. ( Still has two bathrooms and a queen pull out sleeper)
Did that explain it even better?

Doesn't everyone wish they were a travel agent! It's so much fun keeping all the bedding straight.
PS The manager Stephaine has been a guest on our board to help make sure I have been keeping it all straight. (Hi Stephanie)

[TexasMike]

The arrangement sounds fine to me....

And just like "two wrongs don't make a right", neither do two Jesters make a King

[Natasha]

Scroll up, I explained it a bit more.
Let me also add a few things.
#1 Deposits must reach me by the end of Feb.
#2 Yes, I take personal checks so don't worry about running out to the bank and post office.
I'm a " real" business and we take personal checks all day. I'm not going to change my policy because this is a board trip.
#3 I have never had a bad check written to me in 9 years of being in my own business. Please don't break my record!
#4 We have to give back any rooms we do not have deposits for on March 16th.
Address and Checks are made out to:
Coast to Coast Travel
1135 Elder Road
Homewood, Il.
60430

Thanks! You guys are great.

[scuba-sass]

Hey Natasha,

I just love to earn more LLBean Dollars from my Visa Card. Is there some way we can charge any of this?

Scuba-sass :-)

[Natasha]

No charge cards. So sorry.
The money has to be split up so many ways. The instructor gets some, the food, the resort, the dive shop, and the boat owner, to name a few.
PS. tips are not included for the divemaster and the tank fillers and captain. I usually collect a bit from the whole group and we give it to them on the last day in envelopes, while the whole group is present.
I'll let Walter tell you how much he thinks is the right price.

[scuba-sass]

I'll just have to earn more LLBean Dollars buying scuba gear!

Scuba-sass :-)

[KC_Scubabunny]

Natasha,

We will take the King Bed room that was vacated by Sandy and Cindy. Since there are two of us sharing the room is that $525.98 a piece? If so I will send you a check for $1051.96 next week after payday.

We are so excited! We found a great deal on airfare too.

Can't wait to meet everyone and take the class from Walter.

:bunny: KC_Scubabunny :bunny:

[Natasha]

Yes, KC you're correct. I do have to tell you it's a non ocean view room. And it's next to Pete and Mike. Are you sure it's safe? LoL
Send me your phone number so we can talk on the phone today or over the weekend. I'm going to mark off that room as yours! Can't wait to dive with you.

:sunny:

[KC_Scubabunny]

Natasha,

I know it is a non oceanview room. If I am having ocean withdrawl then I will walk around the building! I am sure since Pete and Mike are on our side of the hotel that it will be the fun side anyway!

When you live in Kansas proximity to ocean is not a huge deal!

If you want to PM me your phone number then I will call you this afternoon. I get free long distance since I work for a phone company and it might be a long call!

:bunny: KC_Scubabunny :bunny:

[NetDoc]

in "Diver's Parodies",
and "Singing Like a Blow Fish."

Walter, please check to see if we can have a -contained- fire on the beach. I think we should have nightly beach parties and such. Make sure that ya'll are ready for the...

ScubaBoard CONGA LINE!!!

[KC_Scubabunny]

The flight from KC to Ft Lauderdale that is direct gets in at 1:10 pm on the 19th. Is that early enough for us to attend the classroom portion of the course? If not then we might fly in on the 18th.

Just wanted to know before I book the flight for sure.

Thanks,
:bunny: KC_Scubabunny :bunny:

AKA - Heather

[Natasha]

Walter and I talked about this awhile back. The classroom portion will start between 4 PM and 5 PM to allow everyone to drive in and fly in on the 19th, and not have to pay for an extra day.

It was great talking to you on the phone today. Glad you and Jeff will be joining us!

:gorgeous:

[Bob]

Natasha,
Does Swamp Rat still need a buddy? I have reserved a room with two double beds, so if he needs a room or roommate you can put him with me, if he don't mind. Hey, Swamp Rat, you listening? I'm not such a bad guy, :sharky: just misunderstood. :tree: Bob


:iwagima:

[Dee]

Originally posted by Natasha
Walter and I talked about this awhile back. The classroom portion will start between 4 PM and 5 PM to allow everyone to drive in and fly in on the 19th, and not have to pay for an extra day.

It was great talking to you on the phone today. Glad you and Jeff will be joining us!

:gorgeous:

Oh goody! That means we have time to stop by one of the Springs on the way down. Lessee...where did I put that list of Florida dive shops?

[TexasMike]

Dee...

You flying or driving?

[SunshineFish]

Natasha - It was great talking with you on the phone the other day! :babble:

I think we should make this recipe from fishkiller. maybe i'll even dabble in a little cookin'

http://www.scubaboard.com/t5889/s.html

[Natasha]

Sandy: Great talking to you too. I think Fishkiller should come on this trip and make it for us. Don't you? Someone needs to send him a PM.
Bob: Thanks for your generous offer. I think SwampRat still wants to come. Did you send him a PM? If not I can.

[Bob]

Natasha,
I sent Swamp Rat a PM, waiting on a reply. :tree: Bob
:iwagima:
In honor of those who gave their all...

[SunshineFish]

Since we will be using reels...would a dive knife be required?

[Walter]

Required will be: Mask, snorkel, fins, SCUBA cylinder, valve, BC, LPI, regulator with 2 second stages, SPG, weight system, timing device, depth gauge, light, reel, signaling device, knife or shears and slate.

Nice but not required: Compass, computer and pony bottle or doubles.

DSSW,

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[Natasha]

Walter: Can all required equipment be rented at the dive shop?
Also, can you explain the use of the reel? I was asked this question over the phone and want to be sure I gave the right answer.

:hiding:

[seaangel]

By signal device are you referring to a safety device for surface or an underwater signal device ie, tank banger or safety sausage?

[Walter]

seaangel,

Surface signalling device such as whistle, mirror or safety sausage.

DSSW,

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[seaangel]

Thanks Walter,

I have both a whistle on my BC and a safety sausage. I have used a tank banger on my tank at times so I wanted to clarify that.

[NetDoc]

an excited student showed her "waterproof" whistle. As we went through our pool exercises, she was quite dismayed that it would not work under water... too funny!

I carry a safety suasage, "waterproof" whistle, and a rattler to get the attention of others.

[Walter]

A report was just filed on the Diverlink board for one of the dives we'll be making in July. I thought everyone would find it interesting. http://diverlink.com/cgi-bin/anyboard.cgi/forum/?cmd=get&cG=130393234363&zu=313039323436&v=2&gV=0 This dive is our last scheduled dive of the class.

DSSW,

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[seaangel]

Walter. that sounds like a great dive. I am looking forward to it.

Net Doc, I like the idea of rattlers, several from my dive shop use a quacker. Frankly my tank banger never really has gotten attention when I tried it. Where can I get a rattler? I am helping my LDS on some of their OW certs as an extra and that sounds like a good investment.

[Dee]

Originally posted by TexasMike
Dee...

You flying or driving?

Driving...we like the road trip!

[Walter]

Cindy,

Don't buy a rattler, you can make one for a few cents out of scrap PVC pipe and a couple of old marbles. If you want, I'll make one for you.

Everyone,

Reels are used when making penetrations in overhead environments. The use of a reel greatly increases your chances of finding your way out. Features a reel needs are: a handle, a sprocket which turns easily, a method of locking the reel so it does not turn, a method of securing the reel and a method of cliping the line off quickly. None of the clips should be suicide clips. A suicide clip is a clip that will passively clip to a line (meaning without your assistance). A reel is a very simple device.

As for rental of equipment, the dive shop has normal equipment rental. I do not know if this includes knives, shears, safety sausages, whistles, mirrors, reels or slates.

If anyone needs to rent any of those items please send a PM to me and I'll be happy to check on the availability. Keep in mind, we will not be running 16 reels at the same time, so there will be some leeway for sharing. In an ideal world, or if we were contemplating a major penetration each diver would need their own reel.

DSSW,

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[KC_Scubabunny]

Walter,

Jeff and I might find it more economically feasible to rent a reel depending on what they cost. He check at one LDS here and they had one for $150. Since there is no wreck diving in the immediate area this might be an over inflated price for something that the dive shop has collecting dust on their shelf.

Can you give me an idea of what an adequate reel should cost to both buy and rent?

Also from your post above about sharing can I assume that one reel for our buddy team will be enough?

Also is there a text that we should purchase ahead of time and have read in advance of arriving? (We are both geeky overachievers in academics who take great comfort in reading and rereading about things before we do them.)

Thanks for your patience in answering all our questions.

:bunny: Heather :bunny:

[Walter]

Heather,

There are lots of books available on wreck diving. I've yet to find one I can recommend to students. I teach this class without a text.

I'll check on prices for you.

DSSW,

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[Natasha]

Dear Walter:
I just realized from talking to someone, that many of us don't know all your history. Can you tell everyone:
#1 How long you have been a certified diver
#2 How long you have been an instructor
#3 How many dives you have logged
#4 How many wreck dives you have logged.
Since I do know you, I know most of these answers. I think everyone else will be very impressed. Or am I just extra easily impressed? I know your brother Dennis will say, I'm giving you a big head again. But please answer these simple questions.
Thanks.

[NetDoc]

You obviously don't realise how old Walter is...

1) Walter helped to invent the Aqualung the last century or so. He really doesn't like to go that far back. He has been certified since they first offered certification.

2) He taught Jaques Cousteau how to dive... 'nuff said.

3)1,947,812 (approximately)

4) 947,811 (not counting watching many of them sink from the bottom perspective)

You see, Walter is just too modest to put these figures out in the open for all to see. Don't be surprised if his incredible humility causes him to post these numbers as far less. The fact that he was there when the Titanic sank (he placed the first marker bouy, doncha know) and that he has found the lost city of Atlantis (still keeps that one secret, tho) makes him the absolute best instructor that we could ask for. If we are nice, he might even show us where Jimmy Hoffa's body lies!

BTW, there is a vicious rumor that he has lost all of his teeth. I know for a fact that he has merely misplaced them. Maybe he will let us help him search for them off of Venice Beach.

[Walter]

Natasha,

"I just realized from talking to someone, that many of us don't know all your history."

Not even Dennis knows all my history.

"#1 How long you have been a certified diver"

I began my OW class in 1983, but became certified in 1984. That makes it 18 years.

"#2 How long you have been an instructor"

I became certified to teach in 1986, picking up the wreck instructor certification in 1988.

"#3 How many dives you have logged"

As of today - 1238. I expect to add about 50 - 60 before the class begins.

"#4 How many wreck dives you have logged."

As of today - 269 on 49 wrecks. I'm planning more wreck dives next weekend, hopefully on some of the ones we'll dive in July.

"Or am I just extra easily impressed?"

Probably. There's nothing impressive here, I've just been around awhile. Keep breathing and keep diving the numbers keep getting bigger, it's nothing special. It happens to us all.

DSSW,

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[NetDoc]

that he would go all modest on us. Just go with my post for the real low-down on Walter...

[Dee]

Originally posted by Walter
....."Or am I just extra easily impressed?"

Probably. There's nothing impressive here, I've just been around awhile. Keep breathing and keep diving the numbers keep getting bigger, it's nothing special. It happens to us all.

DSSW,

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In my opinion, the fact that Walter really does feel this way, is one of the many reasons that he is such a good example to all divers and respected by everyone who knows him.

[seaangel]

Walter, if you can give me some dimensions I think we may have the materials here around the house. My hubby keeps things like
extra leftover PVC, and the marbles would not be a problem. I will be going with a class in mid-March to Ginnie for their OW check out dives and would like to have one then. Thanks

[Walter]

Cindy,

Get the smallest PVC that the marbles can roll freely in. Cut it to fit your hand comfortably with caps on either end. Glue a cap on one end, drop in about 3 marbles. Glue on the other cap.

DSSW,

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[scuba-sass]

Walter - you indicated there would be some leeway for sharing reels. Since they are a significant investment, can we get some idea of how many of us currently own them, or plan to buy them before our trip? I'm not quite sure how to do this.

Also, would it be acceptable for a buddy pair to share a reel?

And I think someone asked, but I don't think there was an answer, how much should they cost?

How long a line should they hold?

What weight line should they be loaded with?

(I realize the last 2 are somewhat inter-related.)

BTW, I'm THRILLED to be attending a cert course with such an experienced and MODEST instructor!

Happy Diving,
Scuba-sass :-)

[NetDoc]

Are the bearings they use in CV Joints. They are quite large and have great impact. Go to one of those CV joint repair places and see if they won't give you a bunch.

As for reals... here is my favorite

http://www.reefscuba.com/seal.htm

or this tiny one...

http://www.reefscuba.com/safety.htm

I also own one of these and use it for my Diver's Down float/flag. I am not sure that "plastic" is such a good idea, but they are "cheap".

http://www.diversdirect.com/scubaequipment.htm

Maybe Walter can look at these and tell us if they are "OK" or not. What say teach?

[TexasMike]

Originally posted by Walter
a method of securing the reel and a method of cliping the line off quicklyThis is more of a tip on reel usage rather than discussing the trip, but since folks might be purchasing their first reels, I thought I would share it here....

Rather than using a bolt snap clip to tie off my line, I have a loop tied at the end of my line with a bowline knot. The loop is large enough to fit the entire reel through the loop. And I have a little plastic ball off of a girl's pony tail hair tie to keep the line from completely winding back onto the reel.

When I need to tie off, I pull the line out around the tie-off object, drop my reel through the loop, go one more time around the object, and then continue the dive, unreeling the line out behind me.

--TM

[Natasha]

My job is many things, one being to keep the price of this trip down.
Getting a count on how many reels we will have out there to use is a good idea. I want people to not have to go out and buy a reel for this trip, if there is enough to use.
Sounds like Mike will have one, Pete, Walter, Dee? Who else already has one, and how many does each person have. I know Walter told me he has more then one. Especially, the people flying in, I don't want you to have to bring one, unless Walter says it's 100% necessary.
Also, please welcome SwampRat to the trip. He will be sharing a room with Bob. Go to room 777 to harass them both!

[Dee]

Depending on how much line is needed, Beast and I will probably have an extra reel.

[Swamp Rat]

Would you look at that. Haven't spent a dollar yet and already have a roommate and a room number. Who says you cant get something for nothing. :D
I was planning on purchasing one of the ReefScuba Reels. Also the slate, what size is required. Like my Ex use to say "Size does Matter." ;-0 OOps that's more then 99.99% of the population needs to know. I have the little forearm mount slate will that work?

[Walter]

If anyone already has a reel, they should bring it. If you're planning to buy one anyway, go ahead. If a reel isn't in you budget at this time, we'll work it out. I agree with Natasha, we want to keep costs down where we can. If the slate works for you, it's fine for the class. For what we'll be doing, a small reel is fine. We are not planning major penetrations. Mike, that method of securing the line works perfectly well. If anyone wants to go that way, but can't tie a bowline, we'll teach that skill Friday evening. They are extremely easy to master. If I missed any questions, I'll reread the thread tonight when I have more time and address them all.

DSSW,

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[NetDoc]

The three I mentioned and a Zebco... OK, OK, the Zebco doesn't count! I do use the plastic one for my diver's down float/flag... Walter will we be needing that as well? I am sure we will for the shore dives. BTW, to see the plastic reel you have to click on Accessories and then on Miscellaneous Accessories to find it. They won't allow a direct link to it. Go figure!

[TexasMike]

Walter...

Another skill to cover for us to practice in the resorts pool, shore dives, or on the wreck dives themselve....

Non-silting kicks (aka frog kick and others).

This is something that got left out of my SDI wreck class and boy did I rotertill the compartment during the dive. Made me glad I was using the reel!

[NetDoc]

Gator Swamp Stomp??? or the Shark Swirl??? Or the turtle spin???

[Walter]

Check out the links Pete provided, you'll find reels as low as $35. I've not seen a reel with the wrong size line. 50 ft of line is more than we'll use in this course. A buddy team can share a reel for this class. In class we'll discuss when you'd want your own reel and even when you'd want a backup reel.

Antisilting techniques will be covered. A flutter kick (the preferred kick of most divers) is not the preferred kick of anyone swimming near the bottom or in close quarters where silt is a problem. A frog kick is an excellent choice as is skulling.

Don't get too thrilled, I'm not all that modest.

DSSW,

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[Natasha]

Please welcome Herman and his wife Kathy to the trip. Great to have you two!

:gorgeous:

[seaangel]

Welcome to the Wrecking Crew Herman and Kathy! We are all going to have a great time.

Pete watch it on the Gator stomp stuff, that can get the Bulldogs going. Who let the dogs out?

On a more serious note I found a safety reel with diversdirect for $34.99, it is 100ft. and looks like would meet requirements.

[NetDoc]

But the gators put 'em back 24-10 :tease:

Of course, one of those cheers I remember from my college days...

Two four six eight,
Wait till Herschel graduates!

I guess I will have to find an Orange and Blue wet suit.

[seaangel]

Hmm...Good point, I probably should look for Red and Black. Mine is Blue and Silver, if I could change the Blue into Red then I would have it made.

Seriously, I am a fan of several, Gators are in there since my brother is a grad from there and I am a born Floridian. Georgia has become my home state away from home. (and my son went to UGA) so I have a tiny loyalty to them. But truth be known you can take the girl out of Florida but can't take Florida out of the
girl.

I really miss the Sunshine State, especially the close proximity to OW.

An old saying from the true old Conchs in Key West is "once you have sand in your shoes you will return". I could't put it better, cause I sure have had plenty of sand in mine and I will return, again and again.

[Natasha]

Hi everyone!
Just a little reminder to " Get your checks in the mail." LOL
Seriously, I leave for Cozumel in 16 days. I'll be gone for 9 days. I want to write up all the files and put the amounts you sent in on them before I leave. This makes less work for my partner while I'm gone.
Has anyone sent theirs yet?

:sunny:

[herman]

noise maker

Cindy,

Before putting the noise maker together, get a stainless steel (be sure it's SS not zinc plated) "I" bolt. Put a hole in one of the end caps and insert the the "I" bolt, squirt some RTV (silicon rubber in a tube)around the I bolt and install a nut. Be sure to keep the hole as close to the "I" bolt diameter as possible, threading the hole is ideal. Allow this to set up overnight before putting it all together. You now have a place to attach a clip which will allow you to clip it to your BC instead of searching for a pocket.

[seaangel]

Thanks Herman, I really like that suggestion. I will be working on this project this weekend.:bounce:

[100days-a-year]

Be aware guys that Fla's Lobster mini-season starts the day after you leave.You may notice a few extra folks on the water(if the weathers bad here I'll be one of them.)You Fla boys behave,we do have reputation to protect you know......;)

[Natasha]

Tony:
If the lobster mini season starts on the day AFTER we leave, those that want to stay on for the rest of the week, can dive and catch lobsters?
:sunny:

[Walter]

To catch lobster during the mini season you'll need to have a license with a crawfish stamp and follow the applicable laws, but it certainly can be done.

DSSW,

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[TexasMike]

Hmmm....lobstering....something I can't do here in the Texas mudholes....

Whatcha say Pete?? Have a bug hunt the day after Wreckmania?

[NetDoc]

Sounds good... I do want to point out a couple of things about the Florida Spiney Lobsters...

1) They have calanders... they disappear the day after the season starts and reappear the day after it ends.

2) The males buy bottles of caviar, and decorate themselves with it during season.

3) They wear girdles on their carapace to make them shorter.

4) They just don't play fair!

5) I still don't have the crawdad stamp thing figured out. Dem's big Crawdads, Bubba!

6) The successful Lobster hunter will have invariably forgotten his license. Subsequently, they will then be checked out by a game warden.

7) It is customary to eat the first lobster you catch underwater on the sea floor. Preferably lower than 90 feet.

8) Without a doubt, you will find your lobster in the last place you look for it, or you won't find it at all.

9) Never worry where you stick your hand while trying to catch that slippery lobster. They would NEVER go in the same crevice as a moray or other toothy denizen.

10) They just don't play fair!

[Swamp Rat]

Brain storm! When it rains it's cloudy. Or something like that.
We can just gather them all up during our course and stick them in a closet. Then go back when the season opens. Wheww What a plan. See if they dont play fair why should we.

[Natasha]

Mmm maybe we can catch some for the grill? So what's the deal on getting a license? How much does it cost, and how do we send away for it?
Also, Dee did mention that she wanted to stay more days. I think I will let the resort know who wants to stay on, so it won't be a problem if lots of people will be in town for this mini season.
Who else wants to stay, and for how long?

[NetDoc]

While many throughout FLorida "enjoy" the mini-season, the majority of those traveling to our fair state to enjoy it go all the way down to the Keys. However, it won't hurt to figure it out.

[SunshineFish]

Sigh. I unfortunately have to work. ;-0



Originally posted by Natasha
... Who else wants to stay, and for how long?

[SunshineFish]

Hey Roomie- if you start wearing :eek: Seminole red/maroon, we may have to rethink our rooming situation. (Go 'Canes!)
:joke:
I miss the Sunshine State too. Went to college there. :sun:

Sandy

PS - I am going to try to get my dad to make a rattler for me. He has a bunch of PVC pipes lying around the basement. I just have to figure out Herman's instructions for the "I" bolt.


Originally posted by seaangel
Hmm...Good point, I probably should look for Red and Black. Mine is Blue and Silver, if I could change the Blue into Red then I would have it made.

Seriously, I am a fan of several, Gators are in there since my brother is a grad from there and I am a born Floridian. Georgia has become my home state away from home. (and my son went to UGA) so I have a tiny loyalty to them. But truth be known you can take the girl out of Florida but can't take Florida out of the
girl.

I really miss the Sunshine State, especially the close proximity to OW.

An old saying from the true old Conchs in Key West is "once you have sand in your shoes you will return". I could't put it better, cause I sure have had plenty of sand in mine and I will return, again and again.

[herman]

Maybe this will help. First an "I" bolt is a special kind of screw that looks something like this ----O. Think of a bolt that has had the head cut off and the unthreaded part bent into a loop. Any good hardware store or boat dealer will have them, just make sure they are stainless steel, they are about 2 or 3 times more expensive but they will not rust <$2. A 1/8" or 3/16" diameter (bolt part thickness) will be about right but the bolt diameter is not critical. Take one of the PVC endcaps and bore a hole in it. The diameter of the hole should be just a little smaller than the diameter of the I bolt. It will be a tight fit but the "I" bolt will cut it's own threads as you screw it in. Screw the "I" bolt in to the end cap, put a daub of RTV around the bolt on the inside of the end cap and install a nut onto the "I" bolt to secure it in. Putting more RTV around the nut would be a good idea. Let this assembly dry over night and than put the rattler together as detailed on the other instructions. Is it clear now, if not maybe I can figure out a way to get a drawing on here.

[NetDoc]

What’s in an homonym? You will probably better understand if we write it as "eye-bolt". Since there is an "eye" on one end of it. You were probably thinking "I" like in I-beam. Look at his diagram and you will see what he means. O----- Where the ---- is actually threaded, and the O part can accept a clip.

I sure hope this post was an "eye-opener", because frankly... I have had it for the day. BTW, Herman I think you came up with an eye-deal solution.

[herman]

Eye see what you mean Doc, eye never claimed to be a writer. Eye'm much better with a drill than a keyboard. Ain't homonym made of corn? :)

[NetDoc]

is made out of corn. Whilest, antonym grits is made out of barley. Eye told you so...

[TexasMike]

Getting Really Interesting Threads (on) ScubaBoard

[Swamp Rat]

Grits = Girls Raised In The South!
You have to wonder why them Yankys dont like Grits.

As far as licenses go for the Crawdads. Dixie Divers has them according to the web sight.

Oh locking them in a closet is not going to work. I was told by a guy here that those antennie work as lock picks.

[Stone]

Here's a link to a page of the Florida Marine Fisheries (http://floridafisheries.com/license.html#saltwater) website concerning Fishing Licenses.

Note that Non-residents can get 3 and 7 day licenses.

[NetDoc]

Don't forget your "Tourist Stamp". If get caught with a tourist and DON'T have that pesky stamp, its bad; really bad. Remember Tourist Season opens soon... go for the soft white underbelly. It's their weakest spot! The Link should you be so inclined... :tease:

www.WelcomeToFloridaNowGoHome.com

[Natasha]

Hi Stone:
Thanks for the link. So it looks like it's either 6.50 for a three day license or 16.50 for 7 days. And I can catch and eat as many lobster as I want in those days? What a deal!
Walter, will there be any around the Deerfield beach area or do we need to move camp to the Keys?
Also Stone, I noticed you're in the Florida area, and have been following this thread. Any interest in joining us?

:gorgeous:

[Walter]

Natasha,

"And I can catch and eat as many lobster as I want in those days?"

That depends on you skill in catching lobster. There may have been changes in the law (I have not yet checked), but last year the limit was 12/day/person outside the Keys and 6/day/person in the Keys. I'll have the info for this year long before our trip.

Lobster are found along the east coast, there's no reason to head for the Keys unless you really enjoy crowds.

I'll be diving off the Lady Go Diver on Sunday. I'll be sure to post a report.

DSSW,

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[Dee]

Originally posted by Swamp Rat
Grits = Girls Raised In The South!
You have to wonder why them Yankys dont like Grits.



This is the official acryonym for Grits. I know... cuz I have a cap that sez so!

[SunshineFish]

Walter,

Don't kill me but I have another :question: - Do you recommend diving with gloves? If so, any particular type/thickness?

NetDoc,

Your posts crack me up. If I laugh any harder, people are gonna think I'm not really "working" at my computer.

Herman,

:buggy: Eye thank you very much. I am going to print your's and Walter's instructions out tonight and see if I can collect the supplies I need around my house. My dad's basement is like shopping at the Home Depot so it shouldn't be too hard.

Originally posted by Walter
Required will be: Mask, snorkel, fins, SCUBA cylinder, valve, BC, LPI, regulator with 2 second stages, SPG, weight system, timing device, depth gauge, light, reel, signaling device, knife or shears and slate.

Nice but not required: Compass, computer and pony bottle or doubles.

DSSW,

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[seaangel]

I am really cracking up over these posts on grits, hominy and the such. I have to agree with Dee on it though her definition has my vote.

Now then SunshineFish no need to fear I won't be changing colors, by the way my Dad is a grad from UofM so I am a Cane fan too. Hard to pick sides in my family.

Thanks guys for the improved directions on the rattler. They are
really good.

:jester:

[TexasMike]

Originally posted by SunshineFish
Do you recommend diving with gloves? If so, any particular type/thickness?I'm looking forward to what Walter has to say. In the meantime, I am a big fan of diving with gloves. Partially for the bit of thermal protection provided, plus in my local dive haunts, the underwater attractions are a bit rusty and deteriorated. So touching them with a bare hand could invite a trip to the ER for a tetnus shot.

And when you dive in blue water, there are other little things that you might grab (intentional or accidental) that could cause harm or a painful sting. I've seen stuff attached to the mooring lines that could cause a reaction on bare skin.

As far as which gloves, I got lucky and got both of mine from Walmart. This spring, look for the "water ski" gloves. These are 1 to 2 mil lightweight gloves that you should be able to get for about $10-15. This past November, I got some nice pre-molded 5-mil "hunting" neoprene gloves that have served me well in the 40-degree winter waters at my local quarry.

For me, the guantlet stile that has the velcroed band works great. The velcroed band helps reduce water transfer drastically and helps keep my hands warm.

So I give a big :thumb: to diving with gloves.

[Walter]

Sandy,

It's always a good idea to wear gloves when diving a wreck. They can bite. Any gloves (from garden to more expensive choices) that will stop a sting or cut is fine.

Mike,

Thermal protection should not be an issue in July.

DSSW,

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[TexasMike]

True...

But when discussing gloves in general, it was worth mentioning.

[Stone]

Natasha,

Candy and I would love to join the fun, but we have one dive vacation confirmed for May in Key Largo, and another in the works for June. As much as I'd like to take every 4th week off, I have to pay for my toys somehow.

I'll keep my eye on the thread and see what happens closer to July.

[NetDoc]

like to dive with gloves, but find they have trouble keeping up.

[Stone]

Before anyone sends off for a Florida Saltwater Fishing License . . . if the boat has a license (with crawfish stamp), you don't need one.

[Natasha]

Stone:
Thanks for the reply. We'll cross our fingers that you can take off again in July.
Walter: Can you ask Lady Go Diver when you dive with them this weekend about the license?
Also Walter, I have talked to all of the divers going on this trip, and many of them said they would be interested in the afternoon dives as well. So I would like to block the boat for the afternoons too. I don't think we're going to have a problem filling it with the minimum 4 divers. Right everyone? Who wants to be able to dive in the afternoon too?

[Dee]

Originally posted by Natasha
Who wants to be able to dive in the afternoon too?

Count us for afternoon dives.

Walter, we also want to stay through Friday and try to meet with Marla and Augie and anyone else of the Florida Gang. Since it's mini-bug season, do we need to reserve a boat for those days? Or just wait until closer to the date and see what the plans are then?

[SunshineFish]

Originally posted by TexasMike
I am a big fan of diving with gloves. Partially for the bit of thermal protection provided, plus in my local dive haunts, the underwater attractions are a bit rusty and deteriorated. So touching them with a bare hand could invite a trip to the ER for a tetnus shot.
Speaking of tetanus - I'm due for a tetanus shot but my doctor tells me that there has been a shortage in the immunization for almost a year now. Hopefully they will be restocked by July.

Natasha - count me in for afternoon dives too.

[Walter]

Natasha has the official count, but by my unofficial tally we have 16 divers (including Natasha & me). We have the boat reserved for the mornings. Rob will take the boat out if we have at least 4 divers, but he certainly won't reserve the entire boat for us, he'll try to fill it. I can secure spots for those interested in diving in the afternoon, if we get enough folks we can block the entire boat. So far for the afternoon I have Natasha, Dee & Beast, Sunshine & me. Anyone else?

Mini season is extremely busy. Everyone will be booked in advance. If you want to dive (other than from shore) let me know now and I'll reserve spots on the boat. Right now I have Dee, da Beast & me. Anyone else?

I'll check on the boat license, but I'm not sure it applies to mini season as no commercial licenses are valid during the 2 day sport season. Either way, you will need to have a gauge to measure bugs with you in the water.

DSSW,

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[seaangel]

I would like to go on atleast one afternoon dive. How about a night dive has anyone wanted to do a night dive?

[KC_Scubabunny]

Count Jeff and I in for the afternoon dives and potentially a night dive if one is planned.

Unfortunately we are not able to stay over for mini-season. We are going to Oregon right after Labor Day and can't afford the extra vacation so close. Wish we could stay. We have never been lobstering.

Natasha - I am mailing my check today!

:bunny: Heather :bunny:

[scuba-sass]

Nathasha and Walter,

You can count Lydia and I in for extra afternoon dives. We haven't yet done a night dive, but might in You-Know-Where in a few weeks, (Oh my god, I can't believe it's almost here!!!!!) so that would interest us as well, if available.

BTW, could we get an updated list of who-all is going?

Happy Diving,

Susan :-)

PS - Natasha, my check will be in the mail tomorrow! :-)

[Swamp Rat]

Count me in on at least 2 of the afternoon dives, I want to do some beach night diving also, I want to do some lobstering, and I also want all the Money in Fort Knox. But what I want and what I get might be two different things.
What would the afternoon dives run?
If I get the time off for Lobster I will be there. I wont know until later. How is the beach lobstering?

Texas Mike, I have the same gloves wal-mart special ski gloves black and blue for 9.98 and neoprene gloves also. To funny. Matter of fact almost bought an extra pair last week.

[Swamp Rat]

I bought me one of those fancy underwater metal detectors that I plan on bring down for a beach dive or two. Figure if I dig up enough aluminum cans I can pay for the trip. :D Seems about all it finds up here on land.

[TexasMike]

I'm in for the afternoon, night, beach, lobster, find Pete's lost equipment, and any other dive we want to plan. I figure the more times we're in the water, the cheeper the individual bubble.

Walter, as soon as you add the new dives to the plans, be sure to provide an updated itinerary so those of us flying in can book the correct flights.

This is gonna be fun!

[SunshineFish]

Oooh, Oooh :bounce: Can I watch? (I'm easily amused).

And Walter - Count me in for night dives too. Also interested in shore diving.

[Swamp Rat]

Watching aint no fun unless you have one of those High defenishion bug zappers.
I tell you what. You talk to me real nice down there and I'll even let you touch it, Maybe more than once. ;)

[Natasha]

Well, Walter is even smarter then I thought. He has been keeping track and, is right. Here is the list.
Bob and Keith
Susan and Lydia
Dee and Doug
Pete and Mike
Cindy and Sandy
Herman and Kathy ( Kathy might do some shore dives but isn't getting the wreck dives in)
Heather and Jeff
Me and Walter
I have been told a "Bill" from Diverlink is interested and Auggie too?
The trip is now open to any diver from other boards. I'd like to fill the resort with divers before we have to give the rooms back and let non divers or honeymooners in!
Walter I'm holding a room out for you, so we have 4 rooms left.
Thanks for getting those "Checks in the mail." I'll announce them as they get here, so you know I got them.

:sunny:

[SunshineFish]

Swamp Rat - LOL! It's a deal. Will you even hide a few things for me to find?

Natasha - can you imagine it: some honeymoon couple thinks they are getting away from it all and then ends up in a hotel with this bunch! :tease:

[Natasha]

Hi:
I just brought today's mail in. Keith and Cindy are tied for 1st place in sending their money in. Thanks guys. I always have a special 'prize' for the first checks sent in on any trip. Look for it in the King cake! LoL
Also, thanks for remembering to send in a copy of your c cards. You guys are on the ball! Walter you've got a great group to teach here. I can tell they all mean business!
Sandy: LoL I wouldn't want to be them, when Pete and Mike start singing by the camp fire.

:gorgeous:

[TexasMike]

Or when Pete groggilly wakes up from that wild night with the baby blue garter on his thigh and a thank you note sealed with a lipstick kiss.

[Dee]

Natasha....your cashiers check is in the mail. No, there's C-card copies with it because I've waited too long now trying to remember to get copies of them for you.

Figured you'd rather have the money now!

[NetDoc]

Mike, when did you switch to the baby blue garters??? I always liked you better in red.

[Natasha]

Dee:
Thanks. Walter is the one that wanted the C cards. Since he has already dove with you (more then once) I don't think you need to send your c cards to him. By the way Dee, just to give you a big head, Walter told me you're an excellent diver, and hardly use any air. Now that's a compliment worth hearing.

[seaangel]

Natasha,
I sent my check as wanted to make the deadline on the deposit.
I was afraid that if I waited I would be in Mexico diving and miss the deadline. It is the end of this month right? Anyway that way I won't spend it while I am there. And, you are so right I am serious about this wreckmania. I have my reel, and everything all in place. Oh yeah, my airline tickets too.

Are we there yet?? I am excited.:bounce:

I do have a question about air and such. Since I am flying, down I have a tank question. I am now using steel 100, to help my air
consumption but won't be bringing my tank. What kind of tanks will we be using and can the steel 100's be rented?

[Dee]

Originally posted by Natasha
Dee:
Thanks. Walter is the one that wanted the C cards. Since he has already dove with you (more then once) I don't think you need to send your c cards to him. By the way Dee, just to give you a big head, Walter told me you're an excellent diver, and hardly use any air. Now that's a compliment worth hearing.

Coming from Walter, that means alot. I can't take all the credit for the air consumption...it's a girl thing!

[Walter]

Someone (Pete?) in some thread or other described me as "anal." I think that means I like to take care of details. Even if I certified you I want a copy of your c-card to put in your file. No exceptions. This has more to do with complete record keeping than diving ability.

Girls tend to have better air consumption than guys, but very few of either gender can keep up with Dee. Of course, there are better measure of ability than air consumption. Dee is a diver who thinks. That is the most important quality a diver can have.

Cindy, I'll check on the tanks. I'll be diving with Captain Rob on the Lady Go Diver on Sunday on an all day trip. I'm sure I'll have time to discuss a few things about our trip with him.

So far I count 3 (Mike, Susan & Lydia) who are interested in a night dive. Any others?

Keith, do you have a preference as to which 2 of the 3 days you'd like to dive in the afternoon?

Sandy, Mike, Dee, Doug, Susan, Lydia, Heather & Jeff, you've all indicated you'd like to dive in the afternoon. Is that all 3 days? Anyone else who'd like me to reserve them a spot on the boat in the afternoon?

Natasha, Augie was interested, but can't make it.

DSSW,

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[seaangel]

Walter,
You must of missed my post, I am in for a night dive and atleast one of the afternoon dives too.

[Walter]

Cindy,

I must've missed it. I have it noted now and the fact that a night dive was your idea. Any preference as to which day you'd like to dive in the afternoon? Only one afternoon?

DSSW,

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[SunshineFish]

Walter - count me in for the night dive. for the afternoon dives - are we doing more wrecks? if not, what dive sites would we go to?

[Walter]

Sandy,

Since we'll be diving fairly deep in the morning, I'd like to keep the afternoon dives fairly shallow. Most of the wrecks in the area are fairly deep. The reefs are lots of fun to dive as well. I'm an avid wreck diver, but I like to mix the reefs in too. I'll talk to Rob about specific sites. I also noticed Kathy will be with us, but is not interested in diving the wrecks. Some folks prefer reefs, others prefer shallow dives. Diving shallow reefs in the afternoons will enable us to have a more conservative profile as well as mix in enough different sites to keep everyone interested.

DSSW,

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[NetDoc]

MAYBE an afternoon boat, but I DEFINITELY want to dive with the AWWW (Anal Warm Water Wimp) off of Venice Beach too!!! I only have two Megladon teeth.

[Walter]

Monday?

[Dee]

Walter, Thank you. I'll send you our C-card copies soon...I understand about record keeping!

Beast and I would like to dive the afternoons on all three days. Night dives are always fun so put us down for any you plan.

We would also like to dive on Nitrox as much as possible. We'll be bringing our own tanks and they will be clean and current for vis and hydro.

When the trip is over, Beast and I want to stay and dive Wed. and Thurs. I think others have mentioned doing the same. I would really like another shot at Tenneco Towers!

It's a hard 2 day drive so we'll leave early Friday morning and dive a couple of the springs on the way home, taking our time with the extra day.

[SunshineFish]

Thanks Walter for the 411. I'd like to do one day of afternoon boat dives either Saturday or Sunday. No preference of day. (And the night dive - I love night dives!)

Sandy

[Walter]

Tennaco Towers is a long boat ride from Deerfield Beach. We might consider an operator farther south. I'm hitting it with Captain Rob on Sunday, but we leave the dock at 8:30 AM & get back at 6:30 PM. I'm looking forward to diving with you again.

DSSW,

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[seaangel]

Either Saturday or Sunday afternoon is fine, and reef dives sound good to me.

[Natasha]

Walter:
Sorry I missed your call last night. I was out celebrating Valentine's day a day late. (My husband bought me 2 dozen roses!) As for the dives, it's going to be hard for me to commit to any. If everything goes smoothly ( No one gets sick, no one loses luggage) I should be able to do all the afternoon dives. I'll probably be getting lunch ready during the morning dives, so I'd say I could hopefully take off after lunch, for the afternooon dives. Can we make them at 2:00 or 3:00 since it seems the boat could be all ours again?

:sunny:

[TexasMike]

Yes to all three afternoon. Yes to all night dives. Yes to every dive opportunity possible.

BTW, plunk me down for Nitrox as well. I'll be sure to send a copy of that card along.

BTW; what type and size of tanks are available?

[Walter]

The invitation has been extended to another board.

DSSW,

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[Walter]

All,

go to http://www.covci.com/~ladygodiver/Vessel%20Info.htm for a look at the boat.

DSSW,

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[seaangel]

Looks pretty good to me. Just makes me wish July would get here faster.

[scuba-sass]

Hi Folks,

Afternoon Dives - Count us in for what ever the group decides. We're certainly open to shallower reef dives.

Nigth Dive - as mentioned before, Yes!

Equipment - Lyd & I will need to rent tanks and weights.

Nitrox - We may try to get Nitrox Certified prior to this trip. If not, I believe Walter may have mentioned he can certify us? Any more info on that? We may be able to fly down the night before the Wreck class starts, and be available on the morning of the 19th. We haven't made flight plans yet, but will be doing so soon.

Mini-Bug Season - Sorry, have to fly back and be at work on the 24th or 25th.

Getting Really Excited!

Susan :-)

[Walter]

I can handle the nitrox course as well for anyone interested, but i need to know ASAP because I need to order books and send them out.

DSSW,

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[SunshineFish]

Walter - I'd be interested in Nitrox too. Can certification be completed during the allotted dive days? Due to work, I am not able to arrive earlier than Friday or stay longer than Tuesday.

Sandy

[Walter]

Sandy,

It fits in quite nicely.

DSSW,

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[Swamp Rat]

Walter,
Put me down for the first Two afternoon dives. And the night dive.

[Walter]

Yesterday, I made an all day trip on the Lady Go Diver to dive Tennaco Towers, the Sinkhole (it's not a sinkhole) and Qualmann Tugs.

We dived the shallowest of the 3 TT sites (not the one we dived in July). There were two sections of the tower next to each other. Both have a heavy growth of Gorgonias and are packed with fish. In addition to the usual grunts and snapper, I saw Midnight & Princess Parrotfish, Sand Tilefish, Blue Gobies, Cuban Hogfish, Butter & Barred Hamlets, Sand Diver, Queen & French Angelfish, Spotfin Butterflyfish, Scrawled Filefish, Scrawled Cowfish and a baby grouper. I believe the grouper was a Scamp, but it may have been a Black.

On the second dive, I saw a Guitarfish. I had an urge to play golf, but was able to restain myself.

The third dive allowed us to see several wrecked tubboats on one dive.

This is a trip worth taking.

Tomorrow the LGD is headed for the Hydroatlantic. I wish I didn't have to work.

DSSW,

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[Natasha]

Walter:
Nice report. Did you find out about tank sizes, and if we have the afternoon boat to ourselves?

[livestodive]

My loving wife has agreed to go. Natasha if there are still rooms available let me know. I think I messaged you but am not sure if I did it right. New to this kind of forum.


Walter my wife is a little nervous about penetrating a wreck, so I told her if she was leary with penetrating a wreck that we could just swim outside of them. I am not worried about a certification if it means she has to be uncomfortable. Is it ok with you if she doesn't want to penetrate the wreck, we can just look from the outside? Walter I,m going to bring one reel if that is ok. If she decides to do a limited penetration can we share the reel?

TIA
charlie

[KC_Scubabunny]

Walter & Natasha,

Count Jeff and I in for any afternoon and night dives that occur on Saturday and Sunday. We need to be out of the water by 2pm on Monday to make our 24 hour flying restriction.

Thanks again bunches for coordinating this trip!

:bunny: Heather :bunny:

[herman]

Walter,

I can't say for sure about the afternoon or nite dives now, got to spend some time with the wife so for now count me out. I would like to BUT..... If things work out and there is a spot open I may can fill it. Kathy may be interested in the reef dives, I will have to let you know. In any event, shore afternoon and/or shore nite dives are almost for sure if I can find a buddy (or 2 or 3)

Put me down for Nitrox tanks for the class, I am already certified

I sure wish we could move Fla closer- I just drove 12 hrs from Ginnie and I am pooped but I am now Cavern Certified.

[Natasha]

Please welcome Charlie and Pam to the trip!
I'm holding a room for Bill from Diverlink ..so that leaves 2 rooms left. Whoo hoo!
Herman, congrats!
Since there was no mail today ..no check updates. They should be pouring in tomorrow ..;)
How many more days till July 19th? Who's knows?

[Walter]

I talked with Pavan, the owner of Dixie Divers, on the boat yesterday. He has 80's, 100, & 120's available. He has high pressure and low pressure available. The larger tanks will increase the cost some. I'm still dickering, so I can't give you an exact amount yet.

I also talked to Captain Rob and booked the boat for all three afternoons. Depending on how the numbers add up we may or may not keep the boat to ourselves in the afternoon. I suspect it will not be a problem.

DSSW,

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[Dee]

Originally posted by Natasha
... How many more days till July 19th? Who's knows?

151 Days!

I'll contact Bill and put a burr under his saddle! ;)

[Natasha]

So the count down begins! Dee: Bill left me a message saying he will be out of town until today. Our phone paths should be able to cross this afternoon. Is anyone interested in meeting this Monday night the 25th, at 8 PM EST in www.scubaclicks.com 's chat room?
Jeff the owner said we can use it to have a few live chats. Sound fun?

[scuba-sass]

Never tried the Chat Room thing, sounds like fun!

Scuba-sass :-)

[livestodive]

Sounds like a good idea to me. Pam will chat for us, I can't type all that well. Seems as though tyhe only key I am sure of is the backspace key. ( you know the one with the letters worn off) Will try to catch you in the chat :)

[Barnacle]

Dee I talked to Natasha and check is in the mail. Walter I am flying solo on this trip and the purpose is to dive. I plan to stick around Fl. awhile after and may arrive early. Sign me up for all and any PM and/or nite dives. Looking forward to this!

[Natasha]

Barnacle Bill :
Nice talking to you today. You for got to mention you have a double room and are looking for a roommate. Male or female you're not picky .. Did I say that? LoL
Seriously, Bill is open to share .. He has a cat E so it's 592.98 a person.
I'm going to start Wreckmania #3 Because it's getting hard to load this page. I think every 175 posts we'll start a new thread ..Hehee

[Dee]

Originally posted by Barnacle
Dee I talked to Natasha and check is in the mail. Walter I am flying solo on this trip and the purpose is to dive. I plan to stick around Fl. awhile after and may arrive early. Sign me up for all and any PM and/or nite dives. Looking forward to this!

Hey...glad you got here! Did you get my e-mail? This is gonna be a great trip!

[Walter]

Charlie & Pam,

I'm looking forward to meeting and diving with you.

Bill,

It'll be great to dive with you again. I just hope you didn't get that tattoo.

DSSW,

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[Barnacle]

Walter,
no tatto yet. Would you be willing to pose while we are in Florida?:
Natasha,
I am very shallow, so will need pics of female roomy and references.:)
Dee,
Thanks for getting me into something else!;)
Everyone else
Nice to meet ya!