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lock_washer
March 29th, 2005, 11:10 PM
Is anyone familiar with the new computers from Uwatec? Particullary the Aladin Tec and the Aladin Prime? Has anyone dove with them? I am thinking of purchasing one, and I would appreciate any information or wisdom?


Thanks,

lock_washer

ScubaDru
March 30th, 2005, 05:14 PM
I am also interested in these two new comps. I haven't seen much yet about them on scubaboard. I also recently checked uwatec's website and there is no info on them... I've only seen them in scubapro's brochure/site.

As a relatively new diver, I have basic needs, but I know that I'd like to be able to expand my diving horizons when I'd like, so I'd like to have equipment that can follow me there. Right now, the tops on my list for computers to look at are the Aladin TEC, the Oceanic VT Pro, or the Aeris Elite. I'd like to learn more about the new Aladin's though!

Vie
March 30th, 2005, 11:23 PM
I also recently checked uwatec's website and there is no info on them...

http://www.scubapro.com/products/comps/al_tec_wrist/al_tec_wrist.asp
http://www.scubapro.com/products/comps/al_tec_2g_console/al_tec_2g_console.asp
http://www.scubapro.com/products/comps/al_tec_3g_console/al_tec_3g_console.asp

http://www.scubapro.com/products/comps/al_prime_wrist/al_prime_wrist.asp
http://www.scubapro.com/products/comps/al_prime_2g_console/al_prime_2g_console.asp
http://www.scubapro.com/products/comps/al_prime_3g_console/al_prime_3g_console.asp

lock_washer
March 31st, 2005, 12:27 AM
Well...I just fired off some emails to Editors of Undercurrents Magazine and Scuba Diving Magazine...hopefully I can get a response from them.

SteveFass
March 31st, 2005, 05:14 PM
Looks pretty in the pictures, though I can't tell the difference between the two models. I wonder what the street prices will be? $250 - $300 for the upper of the two I'd guess.

riddler
March 31st, 2005, 05:27 PM
http://www.scubapro.com/products/comps/al_tec_wrist/al_tec_wrist.asp
http://www.scubapro.com/products/comps/al_tec_2g_console/al_tec_2g_console.asp
http://www.scubapro.com/products/comps/al_tec_3g_console/al_tec_3g_console.asp

http://www.scubapro.com/products/comps/al_prime_wrist/al_prime_wrist.asp
http://www.scubapro.com/products/comps/al_prime_2g_console/al_prime_2g_console.asp
http://www.scubapro.com/products/comps/al_prime_3g_console/al_prime_3g_console.asp

Minor gripe, but I really wish companies that made websites checked them for standard HTML, rather than just using whatever works on IE. Those of us that prefer not to use M$ tools can't see the pretty pictures :17:

Also, one of the "tekkie" instructors at my store has the (I believe 3G) cosole unit, and loves it. But it looks too high tech for me ;)

akscubainst
March 31st, 2005, 07:14 PM
I've sold 2 primes and have one in the case right now. What do you want to know? I haven't got the Tec in yet still waiting for it.

Dave

WaTeRwEaSeL
March 31st, 2005, 11:23 PM
Today I actually talked with the tech instructor at my LDS and he really seemed to like the new Uwatec Tec. He said that it is a great computer and he uses it mainly for backup to his tables (GUE Deco Planner.) When compairing it to the deco planner he found the computer to be more liberal, although he says he has the safty factor set kind of high, but when he lowers the factor to like 50% the deco times pretty much match. And if you want a greater safety factor you can always turn on the micro bubble setting; although in my opinion the micro bubble is annoying to use. One of the other nice features he talked about was how the computer DOES NOT lock up when switching a mix with a PPO2 greater than 1.6, the computer allows you to switch and still calculates the deco time. He said that he had problems with the Vytech locking up. When I asked him to compair it to the VR3 he said that if you are not planning on using a CCR rebreather, or doing trimix the Tec was a better buy. Also the computer can use the Uwatec Thingi (sorry forgot what it was called) to monitor the PPO2 from a rebreater. If you have any other questions about the computer just ask. Hope this helps.
P.S. the tec will set you back 1300 big ones.

Justin

WaTeRwEaSeL
March 31st, 2005, 11:28 PM
Well that was stupid. I just worte an entire post about nothing you wanted. Well I confused the Smart Tec Wrist with the Aladan Tec Wrist. My post was about the Smart Tec Wrist only, sorry about that.

Marvel
April 1st, 2005, 12:01 AM
Well that was stupid. I just worte an entire post about nothing you wanted. Well I confused the Smart Tec Wrist with the Aladan Tec Wrist. My post was about the Smart Tec Wrist only, sorry about that.

yeah, but it was great info anyway... ;)

EuphoriaII
April 1st, 2005, 12:33 PM
Well, after discussion with my LDS, I just bought the Prime console. It should be ready today along with the reg and BC. Lakes are too cold for another month or so but I should get some swimming pool time with it Saturday evening. (Local club uses the "Y" indoor pool) Although since I am a newbie, I don't know that I'll be able to compare it to much of anything else, FWIW.

WaTeRwEaSeL
April 1st, 2005, 10:22 PM
yeah, but it was great info anyway... ;)
Thanks Marvel,
I'll try to make mistakes more often. ;)

Justin

lock_washer
April 1st, 2005, 11:44 PM
Well guys...

I got an email back from the editor of Scuba Diving Magazine. They are reviewing the Uwatec Prime in their May 2005 issue. Here the editor's reponse:

We tested the Aladin Prime Wrist in the May 2005 issue. It was a testers’ choice (all the computers in this test bed were). Here’s the write-up:

In a nutshell: This Swiss-made computer boasts the lowest price among this year’s wrist-mount models. It offers a big screen and displays easy-to-read data digits. Test divers rated it good to very good for readability, but noted the narrow green-yellow-red bar graph scale for nitrogen loading is a little hard to see at depth. They found the two-button control system useful but less intuitive than most of the others tested here.
What’s really cool about it: The contoured under-casing sits smartly on the arm. The strap is super long and fits around the biggest dry suit arm.
What’s not so cool about it: The Prime Wrist has a maddening owners manual. The English portion shares space and navigation wheels with another model, further confusing matters. Technical info on the computer is minimal.
Liberal or conservative: Middle of the road.
The verdict: The Prime Wrist is a solid, no-frills computer. It takes more practice to navigate through its programs than other computers, but the low price might justify an extra dose of patience.

JaxvilleDiver
April 2nd, 2005, 03:02 PM
Is anyone familiar with the new computers from Uwatec? Particullary the Aladin Tec and the Aladin Prime? Has anyone dove with them? I am thinking of purchasing one, and I would appreciate any information or wisdom?


Thanks,

lock_washer

I own an aladin tec - - - one of the best computers that I have ever owned. It's easy to maintain and very user friendly. I would recommend it to anyone who is in the market for a new computer.

ronnyballgame
April 3rd, 2005, 11:14 PM
[QUOTE=JaxvilleDiver]I own an aladin tec - - - one of the best computers that I have ever owned. It's easy to maintain and very user friendly. I would recommend it to anyone who is in the market for a new computer.[/QU

My tec is on order...It is supposed to get here this week. I leave for Aruba (Already got Dive Aruba dialed in and reserved) the 19th, and I really hope it gets here. It was supposed to be here last week...

ronnyballgame

dbg40
April 4th, 2005, 12:20 AM
I just bought one (Prime)about a month ago, I asked the same question here, but had no replys. Its pretty cold in CT now so I dont have much time on it but it is an easy son of a gun to use, easy read, easy download to my laptop and the logs cover everything. I think the difference between the two is the tec has guage mode.
The reason I bought was the price, I looked a couple of times trying to make up my mind and my LDS told me I better jump if I wanted one as he had orders from UWATEC to go up $100! No more promo pricing, so I bit and sure enough it did. I walked out for $289.75 now its $400 bucks, If anyone gets a handle on other prices I would love to hear from you.

Windwalker
April 4th, 2005, 04:31 PM
I have a Prime, Its kinda nice, user replaceable batteries, Supports Nitrox, easy to see under water, Uses buttons instead of electrical sensors, Infrared instead of the annoying Memo-mouse, and comes with software so you can download info on a Palm, Pocket PC, or laptop. Real cheap and functional for the cost. It is what my SO dives with. I use a AirZ, and an underwater timer as a backup. I am going to get another prime to replace the UW timer.

lock_washer
April 6th, 2005, 11:53 AM
Well guys...I do appreciate the feedback. Another reason why I am interested in the Aladin Tec or Prime... It will give me a chance to fit a Uwatec computer inside my Pennform console unit. (Pennform consoles...us old dogs love them and still use them). That way I can strap my Uwatec Ultra Pro to the outside holder of the unit and finally have all my gauges, watch, backup computer, slate off my wrist and on one unit.

Wijbrandus
April 8th, 2005, 09:47 AM
My wife purchased the Aladin Prime. For a woman, the molded case is a quite big. She will have to use a sweatband to make it fit better. She complained quite a bit about the manual, but after a week of casual reading she's really feeling good about the computer. She's got a bunch of new gear we are taking to the pool this weekend so we'll know more after that.

I've been eyeing the Tec, primarily for the gauge mode capability and higher O2 mix capabilities. Right now I'm still torn between that and the Uwatec SmartPro wrist. One thing I don't like about the Aladins is that it appears you don't have all of the "standard" info on one screen. She said you have to bounce between a few screens. I'm not too sure about that though, but if true, it's a negative in my eyes.

ZoCrowes255
April 8th, 2005, 11:27 AM
I've got about 10 dives on an Aladin Prime wristmount and so far I like it. I have a Cressi Archimede that recently crapped out on me after about 200 dives so this is replacing that. In the past I have used an Oceanic Versa, UWATEC Smartcom, UWATEC Air Z Nitrox and an Oceanic Datamax Pro Plus.

The nice thing about the Aladin Prime is the size. It fits nicely on the wrist and is fairly easy to see while not being too small. The interface took me a few trys to get down but now I think I have mastered it. The instruction manual is damn near worthless though. It reads like it was written originally in Italian then translated to German then to sanskrit then back to Italian and finally into English. Basically it is damn near impossible to figure out. I just played around with a computer for a bit and got the hang of it.

I am in love with UWATECs PC software! The infrared link is easy to use and the interface is excellent.

If you're thinking about getting one I would do so. I will have to have a few more dives on it to see if I like it more than my Cressi. However, it is a damn good computer

dbg40
April 9th, 2005, 05:56 AM
I like the prime, but you are dead on about the manual. IT SUCKS, what the hell were they thinking? How can you justify the time and research to turn out a good computer, and stick these disjointed lunatic manuals in the box with it? Dave.

ronnyballgame
April 12th, 2005, 09:27 PM
[QUOTE=JaxvilleDiver]I own an aladin tec - - - one of the best computers that I have ever owned. It's easy to maintain and very user friendly. I would recommend it to anyone who is in the market for a new computer.[/QU

My tec is on order...It is supposed to get here this week. I leave for Aruba (Already got Dive Aruba dialed in and reserved) the 19th, and I really hope it gets here. It was supposed to be here last week...

ronnyballgame

Just talked to my LDS and my Tec is not going to get here until early May. There has been an issue with the console not making it to the rated depth and still staying intact. Not that I would EVER go to 400', but the rep told him as I was standing there that they have not shipped any of them yet because of this problem. So I am getting to use my LDS's UWATEC SmartCom for my trip....bummer....



I guess that means I need to plan anothwer trip for the winter so I can use my new toy....

Hoosier
April 13th, 2005, 02:02 AM
I feel your PITA. I waited for my D9 for 4 months.


[QUOTE=ronnyballgame]

Just talked to my LDS and my Tec is not going to get here until early May. There has been an issue with the console not making it to the rated depth and still staying intact. Not that I would EVER go to 400', but the rep told him as I was standing there that they have not shipped any of them yet because of this problem. So I am getting to use my LDS's UWATEC SmartCom for my trip....bummer....



I guess that means I need to plan anothwer trip for the winter so I can use my new toy....

JustinW
April 13th, 2005, 02:24 AM
I have been diving with the SmartCOM for a while now, I like it. I upgraded from an Aladin sport. Both worked great for me, but I wanted more expandability and a computer that I could use with deco stops.

Published MSRP prices for the computers are as follows.

Aladin Tec:
wrist $439
2 gauge $496
3 gauge $540-555 (more with quick release coupling)

Aladin Prime
wrist $329
2 gauge $370
3 gauge $410-425 (more with quick release coupling)


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