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WreckWriter
May 18th, 2002, 08:34 PM
How are you all stowing your bags? I have a light weight 50 lb bag that fits in my Halcyon backplate pouch for deco purposes but I also have a couple 100 lb Carter bags I would like to take with me (sometimes you get lucky...).
Any thoughts on best method of carrying them (at least one of them). They roll up to about 10 inches long, about 3 inch diameter roll.
Thanks,
Tom
Scrappy
May 18th, 2002, 09:04 PM
I also have a 100# lift bag which i place directly under my Fred T plate with 2 looped bungies. This keeps it between my butt and the bottom of my tanks. I can easily pull it out, but have tried several times to make it fall out and couldn't do it. I couldn't get it to feel comfortable in a storage pack. You can also clip it off to one of the bungies. Kind of looks like this.
*****
* *
* * <Plate
* *
*******
+(+++)+ <Lift Bag
^
Bungie
The ten inch long role is the key. This seemed to keep it more stowed for me than attatched to the side of the plate.
Scrappy
WreckWriter
May 18th, 2002, 09:41 PM
Not that your art isn't good but you don't happen to have a pic do ya?
My BP is Halcyon but same principle can almost certainly be applied....
How's the Rock? Anyone find the plug yet?
:)
Tom
BOOinTX
May 18th, 2002, 10:18 PM
The June 2002 issue of Dive Training magazine has a nice article and photos on stowing lift bags on a backplate - see page 118...
WreckWriter
May 18th, 2002, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by BOOinTX
The June 2002 issue of Dive Training magazine has a nice article and photos on stowing lift bags on a backplate - see page 118...
Of course that's not one of the articles available online :(
Thanks, will try to dig up a copy from an LDS.
Tom
WreckWriter
May 19th, 2002, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by BOOinTX
The June 2002 issue of Dive Training magazine has a nice article and photos on stowing lift bags on a backplate - see page 118...
I found a copy of this mag today. It is a good article. I managed to improve (at least I think so) on one of their suggested methods and am now all set. I'll be using the butt mount style. Thanks again.
Tom
Scubaroo
October 9th, 2002, 07:11 PM
I'm using this link as a reference:
http://www.northeastdir.com/liftbagstow.htm
When stowing a lift bag like this, should the line on the spool be TIED to the bolt snap on the lift bag, like in the last picture? I didn't think this was correct - I've been shown a different way where a loop in the end of the line was clipped by the bolt snap, after being fed through the "closed eye" of the bolt snap, to reduce the chances of the loop pulling out of the bolt snap.
Uncle Pug
October 9th, 2002, 07:27 PM
bengiddins once bubbled...
When stowing a lift bag like this, should the line on the spool be TIED to the bolt snap on the lift bag, like in the last picture?
If you store you bag in the backplate pack then the spool should be in your right thigh pocket.
If you want to pre-rig the spool and the bag then keep both in your right thigh pocket... and a spare spool in your left pocket.
Why?
When I have my bag in the plate pocket I leave some bag hanging out but it is held tight to my butt by the crotch strap... with the setup pictured the pre-rigged spool is wagging out there like a tail. The spool is definitely an entanglement hazard.
Scubaroo
October 9th, 2002, 07:41 PM
Unfortunately I don't have pockets on my current wetsuit. I think I'll stow the bag, and leave the spool disconnected, clipped off to my butt d-ring. A drysuit with pockets(es) is on the horizon.
Uncle Pug
October 9th, 2002, 08:38 PM
If you are going to clip it off to your butt ring might as well go ahead and pre-rig it.
But it really doesn't take that long to rig u/w... I have 'em set up both ways.
Aquamaniac
October 9th, 2002, 09:08 PM
So What IS the correct way to Rig the bag/spool/bolt?
C,Mon Unc, get the cam out. I know ya want to......:D
detroit diver
October 9th, 2002, 11:54 PM
Aquamaniac once bubbled...
So What IS the correct way to Rig the bag/spool/bolt?
C,Mon Unc, get the cam out. I know ya want to......:D
I think my buddy's got it rigged right. What do you think?
O-ring
October 10th, 2002, 12:36 AM
I think my buddy's got it rigged right. What do you think?
My wife doesn't like her picture posted...please take it down.
detroit diver
October 10th, 2002, 12:39 AM
I got her permission. She said you wouldn't mind.
Bottomfeeder
October 10th, 2002, 04:42 AM
WreckWriter once bubbled...
Any thoughts on best method of carrying them (at least one of them). They roll up to about 10 inches long, about 3 inch diameter roll.
What works for me is carrying the bags in loops of the heavy black surgical tubing below the backplate. You use 3 sets of loops for 2 lift bags. The first set goes through the backplate. The second set goes through the first set, and the third through the second. You carry the bags in the two bottom sets. The top set is to get them away from the plate.
This was shown to me by a macaw that belongs to a well known SoFL wreck diver.
O-ring
October 10th, 2002, 09:09 AM
This was shown to me by a macaw that belongs to a well known SoFL wreck diver.
Tell me you at least fed him some peanuts...
Bottomfeeder
October 10th, 2002, 07:12 PM
O-ring once bubbled...
Tell me you at least fed him some peanuts...
The chimp wasn't around; they told me that they saw him getting on a Greyhound bus headed north on I-95.
Of course I took care of the bird - trust me, his advice is well worth every peanut.
Uncle Pug
October 10th, 2002, 07:20 PM
Tie a small loop into the end of the larger loop of your line. The bolt snap is in this loop in the stowed position.
To deploy the bag pass the bolt snap with loops through the eye of the bag bolt snap.
Put your left hand through the large loop and take the spool.
Let the loop roll off your hand over the spool.
Remove the bolt snap and clip it off to your right chest D-ring.
The bag is now rigged for filling.
O-ring
October 10th, 2002, 07:31 PM
The chimp wasn't around; they told me that they saw him getting on a Greyhound bus headed north on I-95.
He wasn't headed up here to get me squared away was he? I hope you mean to say he was stopping in VA Beach :D
Bottomfeeder
October 11th, 2002, 04:50 AM
O-ring once bubbled...
I hope you mean to say he was stopping in VA Beach :D
I can't speak for the chimp, but that's where I think he was going.