Recertification?

vladimir · Jun 2, 2005

drbill, MikeFerrara, MHK, et al have discussed the idea at length in this thread:

http://www.scubaboard.com/showthread.php?t=99107

What does everybody think? Should divers be required to renew their certifications periodically?

CBulla · Jun 2, 2005

Yes, every 2 years (like CPR/AED cards), inexpensive recert checks that has a short written test on core information and a brief skills test. If it has been 2 or more years since the last dive, it should be a refresher class with a pool skills class and check out.

The advanced certifications (cavern, cave, deco, DM, Instructor, etc.) should be yearly as they contain life preserving skills that if not used regularly can easily go by the mental wayside making that diver a liability to everyone on their dive.

Mike Nebel · Jun 2, 2005

I don't know, it's kind of a Darwin Awards thing... if you aren't smart enough to take a refresher course when you've gotten rusty, you are just weeding out the gene pool.

DennisS · Jun 2, 2005

If you are certified, you should be knowlegable enough to know that if you haven't been diving in 5 years, you should take a refresher to get those OW skills-mask clearing, snorkel placement, fin pivot and how to mount a regulator back up to speed. If the agency didn't stress this during basic OW, perhaps they should.

If you are diving regularly you don't need to retake the PADI open water course every year.

Requiring dive stamped logs may work for those that dive off dive tour boats but are unverifiable for those that beach dive or go off private boats. How would current dive status be verified. People would fudge their log books to avoid the cost, inconvenience and agency recertifying charges.

It would be a moneymaker for the agencies and dive shops and a CF for everyone else.

DennisS · Jun 2, 2005

How did this thread get 3 replies, 4 views in the forum and 14 entries on the poll, don't you have to view it to vote.

CBulla · Jun 2, 2005

I think the financial winner would be instructors and shops who administer the recerts, however, the reciprocate is at least the guy who is a buddy on a boat whom you might not know will have had to have something to bring him up to speed in the last 2 years...... you hope...

drbill · Jun 2, 2005

Mike Nebel:
I don't know, it's kind of a Darwin Awards thing... if you aren't smart enough to take a refresher course when you've gotten rusty, you are just weeding out the gene pool.

The case that started my thread on recertification involved survivors... her fiancee and 12-year old daughter (plus untold relatives and friends). Agree that people should use their brains (but, looking at the State of the Nation, how many do?), but there are many others who suffer if they don't.

Kim · Jun 2, 2005

CBulla:
however, the reciprocate is at least the guy who is a buddy on a boat whom you might not know will have had to have something to bring him up to speed in the last 2 years...... you hope...

That might be true. On the other hand he might just have fudged his logbook so that he didn't have to bother. At the end of the day you don't know until you are in the water. I've seen guys with supposedly hundreds of dives that shouldn't have a cert card at all.

CBulla · Jun 2, 2005

Kim:
That might be true. On the other hand he might just have fudged his logbook so that he didn't have to bother. At the end of the day you don't know until you are in the water. I've seen guys with supposedly hundreds of dives that shouldn't have a cert card at all.

True enough.. was just playing devils advocate really. Personally, I really don't do dives I can't do solo with folks I don't trust or know. Don't get me wrong, I won't abandon a buddy.

DennisS · Jun 2, 2005

drbill:
The case that started my thread on recertification involved survivors... her fiancee and 12-year old daughter (plus untold relatives and friends). Agree that people should use their brains (but, looking at the State of the Nation, how many do?), but there are many others who suffer if they don't.

A father's son died diving off of Deerfield Beach. It too was tragic. I'm sure the family was devastated. Recertification would not have helped, neither was certified to begin with. You can't make regulations that affect hundreds of thousands because of a few.

http://www.cdnn.info/safety/s040730a/s040730a.html

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