mtg
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I am still tweaked about this whole oriskany removal of 'artifacts' thing...
I'm over Capt Tim and what he did or didn't do, but I am unsatisfied about the ISSUE. (yes: me woman :blinking: ).
Look but don't touch or take seems like a simple enough concept and, if it is as widely accepted as the responses to the original thread would imply, I don't see why there is a problem on charter boats. Self policing was mentioned, and I do believe we do have a responsibility to say something when someone on your boat is pillaging. For southerners at least, I know that confrontation is anathema, but the more peope who take up diving, the more we are going to have to stand up for some kind of diver etiquette. For those of us who are not "into other people", I think we need to take an interest, if only to set a good example and encourage good behavior.
Plus, I really don't see a difference between reef programs and wrecks in terms of taking stuff. Perhaps recovering cargo if you go through the expense of finding the wreck, and the bell or named china, that makes sense. But taking portholes and the like? I see that as defacing (and to what end, really).
It was also mentioned on the oriskany thread that other boats (not charters) are really responsible for most of the pillaging/defacing. I'm not sure I buy that. I haven't seen a bunch of random diver boats parked out at wrecks/reefs. Perhaps others have seen otherwise?
What would you have on your list of etiquette?
I'm over Capt Tim and what he did or didn't do, but I am unsatisfied about the ISSUE. (yes: me woman :blinking: ).
Look but don't touch or take seems like a simple enough concept and, if it is as widely accepted as the responses to the original thread would imply, I don't see why there is a problem on charter boats. Self policing was mentioned, and I do believe we do have a responsibility to say something when someone on your boat is pillaging. For southerners at least, I know that confrontation is anathema, but the more peope who take up diving, the more we are going to have to stand up for some kind of diver etiquette. For those of us who are not "into other people", I think we need to take an interest, if only to set a good example and encourage good behavior.
Plus, I really don't see a difference between reef programs and wrecks in terms of taking stuff. Perhaps recovering cargo if you go through the expense of finding the wreck, and the bell or named china, that makes sense. But taking portholes and the like? I see that as defacing (and to what end, really).
It was also mentioned on the oriskany thread that other boats (not charters) are really responsible for most of the pillaging/defacing. I'm not sure I buy that. I haven't seen a bunch of random diver boats parked out at wrecks/reefs. Perhaps others have seen otherwise?
What would you have on your list of etiquette?