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jiveturkey once bubbled... I'm not sure I understand how someone could fail to notice that they've gone 100 ft lower than their planed depth.
I cannot believe...jeez... I ain't got the words. That is beyond stupid. Obviously these people had no business being in the water in the first place. This one should have been ruled a case of Darwinism and the poor judge and jury members compensated with the $17m for the destruction of their valuable brain cells that took place listening to this tripe.
This event even fails the basal level common sense crap my mother used to feed me as a child - "if the DM jumps off a bridge would you follow him?"
"I'm Warren Miller and about 50 years ago, back in 1946 when I was a senior in college, I went skiing on the second weekend in November. On Monday morning, I went back and dropped out of school. Since then, I've never looked back." - Warren Miller
Assuming this guy was a brand new diver - because anything else wouldnt make any sense - would it really be that hard to believe that you could escort new people to extreme depths if they were following you as dive leader?
Now if they were following a dive leader, what kind of dive leader would take people like that to those depths? - they must have been wearing regular gear and air (i.e. no doubles, no trimix etc) if they were new divers.
If they weren't new divers then how did he get awarded anything? You could take me to the middle of the ocean but likely i'd try not to go to 2000 feet just because its there. Theres no excuse for these guys to have gone beyond their own limits if they had any reasonable experience under their belts.
I wish there was more info about the actual events. It does sound like it was some kind of escorted dive though - what else could make sense?
Amen, I get really mad everytime I hear about these huge jury awards for stupid people. I feel bad the guy was hurt and being a parapalegic is very unfortunate. However, I was raised with a strong belief in taking responsibility for one's own action.
wetman once bubbled... Assuming this guy was a brand new diver - because anything else wouldnt make any sense - would it really be that hard to believe that you could escort new people to extreme depths if they were following you as dive leader?
Now if they were following a dive leader, what kind of dive leader would take people like that to those depths? - they must have been wearing regular gear and air (i.e. no doubles, no trimix etc) if they were new divers.
If they weren't new divers then how did he get awarded anything? You could take me to the middle of the ocean but likely i'd try not to go to 2000 feet just because its there. Theres no excuse for these guys to have gone beyond their own limits if they had any reasonable experience under their belts.
I wish there was more info about the actual events. It does sound like it was some kind of escorted dive though - what else could make sense?
steve
I jumped to conclusions....if they were brand new, they would have known better, but may have just followed the Lemming Leader into the abyss without thinking twice about it. That would explain a lot...if they weren't brand new they had their brain isolators closed..
"I'm Warren Miller and about 50 years ago, back in 1946 when I was a senior in college, I went skiing on the second weekend in November. On Monday morning, I went back and dropped out of school. Since then, I've never looked back." - Warren Miller
alot of boats in the carib tell the bottom's at 70 and dump them off the back with no DM. Most likely Newbies, over weighted, certain that the bottom's at 70 and not smart or experienced enough to realize a 100 has gone I should look at my gauge. And when the computer beeped and the watch face broke, it was oh sh** we better get to the surface in a hurry. Too bad Darwin didn't do the full job.
Just putting yourself in a new divers shoes - i bet you could take many brand new divers to whatever depth and they'd follow you (assuming they looked at you as an experienced diver that wouldnt intentionally lead them into harms way).