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1. Divers who don't find it worth their time to develop some basic safety skills and diving technique even aftere 100s of dives. Not everyone has the same goals, I realize this but if after 200 dives you can't stay off the bottom at will or silt out an an entire dive site I don't appreciate it. I would absolutely not apply this standard to new divers BTW.
2. Inter dive shop politics and the innability of alot of LDSs to achknowledge the very real and serious competion from the internet in a factual and professional way.
Individual divers are great, and always fun to meet. Get a group of divers together, and they always seem to have a higher than average prima donna quotient, and they are rarely shy about expressing opinions.
But I always think scuba divers are more sinned against than sinners. Skiiers and surfers get special luggage allowances on aircraft. Just try running that argument in relaiton to your scuba gear...
1) What bugs me about the general dive community are the few who seem to know everything, and tolerate no one else's differing opinion. And especially those few divers so inconsiderate of others as to be a hazard to others, the reef and themselves.
What I do like about the dive community is that so far I haven't seen too many of the above. Especially enjoy 99% of SB community, and the other 1% here, often provide entertainment.
+1 . . . although I will say I love the ones that do seem to know everything and are happy to engage in a respectful debate with others. You learn a LOT in those discussions.
No issues with LDS. We have tiny LDS, but no attitudes . . . is that perhaps a 'big city' kind of attitude?
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1. What is it about the Scuba Diving Community that bugs you? or you dislike?
A) Training agencies focusing on quantity not quality of divers they produce.
2. What is it that bugs you about any Scuba Diving Shop?
A) When they act like they're doing me a favor.
1. What is it about the Scuba Diving Community that bugs you? or you dislike?
The supposition that there is any such thing as "the Scuba Diving Community" in any meaningful fashion...really bugs me. Seriously, the fact that many people share a common interest at some level of intersection does NOT constitute a community.
Community:
1.a social group of any size whose members reside in a specific locality, share government, and often have a common cultural and historical heritage.
2.a social, religious, occupational, or other group sharing common characteristics or interests and perceived or perceiving itself as distinct in some respect from the larger society within which it exists
Even among people who are "more than most" involved in diving there is no actual "scuba community" per se.
Not being semantic...this goes I think to the heart of some of the arguments/bickering/etc that goes on here among the "scubaboard community." The idea that we all somehow share common characteristics and/or are somehow distinct from society as a whole is preposterous. It's overly broad and non-specific. There's no "tennis community" or "soccer community" or "car driving community" or "khaki wearing community" or "book community." To be a community requires members to proactively affiliate and align themselves with others. There's a lot of people who chose to spend some portion of their time breathing compressed air/gas underwater; that no-more makes divers "a community" any more than living on the same block with 1,000 people you never talk to or interact with creates a community.
So there is no "diving community" within society as a whole. However, I DO think there are communities WITHIN diving; cave diving community, tec diving community, wreck, spear-fishing, etc. These are groups of people that choose to affiliate with each other and are distinctly different sub-sets of the diving population as a whole. But there is no "Scuba Community" as a distinct sub-set of the population at large.
1. What is it about the Scuba Diving Community that bugs you? or you dislike?
What I don't like is to see badly trained divers. It says to me that the industry has a serious QA problem when "calibration" of training is not controlled. This usually gets discussed on discussion forms in the setting of whether or not standards are "high" enough. What people don't understand, though is that standards and delivery are slightly different issues. I get really tired of the "community" going over this same terrain time and time again without anyone actually listening and with exactly ZERO progress getting made on solutions.
But I started by saying I don't like to see badly trained divers. Some divers are such train-wrecks that it makes me worry about them. I wouldn't like to see a 'scuba' police but I would certainly like to see a culture where instructors who are doing this feel pressure to improve and that agencies take their responsibility to identify really bad instructors and either re-train them or stop them from teaching. One agency in particular has the lion's share of the market and therefore the lions share of the instructors (both good and bad) and in my opinion an ethical responsibility to ensure that their customers are not subjected to training from the worst of their instructor pool.
2. What is it that bugs you about any Scuba Diving Shop?
I don't have an opinion about that. In the cities where I've lived there were always enough shops around. If I don't like a particular shop I can just walk away and let them be terrible without me helping them.
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