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    At least we won't have to worry about Global Warming.

    We'll be too busy ice diving

    I'm interested in hypothoses on how the marine ecosystem would react. Reefs and surrounding life? Deep water pelegiacs? Or is it all screwed as we would, as is our MO, just kill everything and eat it?

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    What strikes me is...

    Quote Originally Posted by saying
    We'll be too busy ice diving

    I'm interested in hypothoses on how the marine ecosystem would react. Reefs and surrounding life? Deep water pelegiacs? Or is it all screwed as we would, as is our MO, just kill everything and eat it?

    ...that Central Michigan, where I live is suffering though the coldest and snowiest winter in 20 some years. Talk about Global Warming is so far removed from what I'm living every year that I just can't stand it. We got another 4" of snow last night, and I'm just holding on, waiting for the warm weather to get here.

    So as far as I can see, the climate has already swung the other way. Around here, if feels like an Ice Age is starting.... I would WELCOME a bit of Global Warming about now!
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    GLOBAL does not equal LOCAL

    It doesn't have to get warmer everywhere to be global warming. The article cited even says that global warming will initiate an Ice Age. Figure that out. Of course that's for the Northern hemisphere. Wonder what happens in the south?

    An interesting point is that it talks about how similar this warming is to previous warming cycles. Then it states that we are to blame. How sure are we that we are making that much of a difference?

    Also, the near unanimous opinion is that the burning of fossil fuels is the largest impact we are having, and that an increase in the introduction of greenhouse gases is our biggest effect. What about the natural processes that might take up the excess CO2 in particular and reduce the overall concentration of greenhouse gases? There is research that shows a large impact in CO2 concentration from the presence of bogs. Peat bogs tend to absorb large amounts of CO2, particular when levels are high. Of course, you can't really live in a bog, so humans have been systematically reducing the bog surface area all over the planet for centuries. Is our biggest impact the introduction of the gases or the removal of the balancing absorber of surplus CO2? This is somewhat analagous to a chemical solution and acidity. You can add a lot of acid to a strongly buffered solution and not make much difference, but if you systematically remove the buffer, the solution becomes much more sensistive to the addition of acid, and the balance is precarious indeed. In the same way, the removal of bogs (and the prevention of their formation) may be creating a much more precarious balance of greenhouse gas concentrations.

    It would be interesting to see bogs held in the same light as the rain forests in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adder70
    It would be interesting to see bogs held in the same light as the rain forests in the future.
    200 hectares per minute

    That's how fast the rainforests are vanishing. I don't think there's enough bog in the world to hold them in that esteemed light.

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