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So the wife and I get to the lake and take a nice ride in the boat to the dive spot... 40'-50' depth with lot of really cool large rock outcrops... Dress and get in the water and trouble... The wives BC inflator valve is leaking... So I get her to the ladder and start trying to fix it well still in the water... It's the over pressure valve sticking open and so I remove the whole thing and try to get it unstuck... No luck... What to do ?

Well, We both use the same BC just different sizes... So I turn my back to her and tell her to un-screw my valve/hose from my BC.. I now put the good valve/ inflator hose on her BC and have her put the leaking one back on mine... She checked her BC and was good to go.. She looked at me and asked " What about you ? " I told her... I'd be fine.... Dove for years without one..

Hour later we get back in the boat and she was like " How the hell do you do that? You are just diving without playing with the F'n BC all the time... " So I give her the history of diving from NO vest to CO2 life vest to horse collar BC to vest/wing BC's... Now she wants me to teach her how to dive old school.... :wink:

Jim....
 
Oh the luxury of the horse collar, or toilet seat as it was more comonoly known over here. We should have been that lucky.
Yes as little neoprenne as you can stand with the cold then weight for 25 feet or so. Sometimes grab a rock for the initial descent, it was tough to get all the wir out of those old and ill filtting wetsuits.
Diving warm water with a 1mm these days is lovely.
 
It can go beyond that.... Monkey Diving

http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/basic-scuba-discussions/296748-sooo-what-about-monkey-diving.html


Disclaimer * Monkey Diving is a specialized type of diving which requires specialized training and equipment. Do not attempt monkey diving until you have received proper monkey certification through a recognized monkey diving agency *

But we are diving in northern maine lakes... 7mil farmer john/ jacket with gloves and hood... water temp at 50' feet was 38 degrees :amazed:

Jim...
 
First time I ever used a BCD was in 1989 while diving with a Cousteau team. It was required gear. I kept trying to descend, but it kept inflating. The DM told me that couldn't be happening. I told her to watch as I descended. Indeed it was autoinflating. She asked me how we could deal with this (since I'd been diving for 26 years by then). I said I'd just disconnect it and continue the dive. She was surprised. I said I'd been diving without one for decades and the dive proceeded just fine. Today I wouldn't dive without one unless I had to. I did have to make an "emergency" ascent from 200 fsw while diving Catalina's Ship Rock when my bladder blew a hole in it... that was not much fun.
 
Interesting concept no floatation!
Also interesting comments...

Many years ago I had the first newspaper column, "Dive Bubbles" devoted to diving in the US and possibly the world in the Cencal Timespressrecorder aka TPR. One particular article which has been re-published and referenced world wide in diving publications is a story I published about 25 years ago in my news paper column "Dive Bubbles" about Divers Cove in Laguna Beach and the changes that time has wrought...


"YOU CAN'T GO HOME AGAIN…”

Several summers ago I visited with some relatives and old friends to reconnect with my roots down in southern California, in “smogsville,” as the smog shrouded area of Los Angeles and Orange County is known by most Californians who reside in other areas of the state.

This visit certainly verified the message in the Thomas Wolfe book “You can't go home again” which I found so difficult to comprehend as a young college student. Yes, Thomas Wolfe was correct! Indeed - You can't go home again.

I spent a very early Saturday morning at Diver’s Cove in Laguna Beach, the fountainhead of American sport diving. It has been a popular diving location since recreational diving began along the California coast in the early 1930s. “The cove” as local divers refer to it, was catapulted from obscurity into international diving fame when it was chosen as the location for the world’s first competitive spear fishing meet in June 1950. The Compton, California “Dolphins Spear Fishing club”, won the meet with a three man team consisting of Ken Kummerfeild, Pat O’Malley and Paul Hoss (of the Bottom Scratcher/Hoss gun fame)

The cove was immortalized for divers through out the world on the cover of the December 1951, issue of Skin Diver Magazine Volume 1, number 1 with a picture of Dr. Nelson "Matty" Mathenson of the Long Beach Nepunes proudly displaying a presentable White Sea Bass he had just speared at the at "the Cove."

Surprisingly Diver's Cove did not receive it's name from recreational diving but from the local youth's habit of diving into the shallow blow hole from the rocks below where the apartments now stand. The apartments were constructed in 1960 which physically separated the cove and Fishermen cove to the north. Prior to the construction and into the 1970s Fisherman's cove was the docking and storage cove for a number of small local recreational sport fishing boats

Lots of other changes have occurred in and around Divers Cove with the passage of sixty five years.

In the 1950s the rolling hills surrounding Diver’s Cove were devoid of housing and covered with dry chaparral, which emitted the classic California golden glow always associated with the “Golden state.” Now when viewed from the cove the hills appear almost surrealistic emerald green, blanketed by modern multi- million dollar homes on well-manicured lawns interconnected labyrinth of roads.

It is no longer possible to drive up to the edge of the cliff at Diver’s Cove and park haphazardly. Parking places are now regulated. They are neatly identified with white stripes on the concrete and crowned with a row of coin eating parking meters; silent sentinels waiting for the next quarter for fifteen minutes of violation free parking.

Also absent is the steel cable that provided beach goers and divers to access to the beach. It was a much-appreciated gift from some unknown beach lover who spent their time; money and effort to securely bury one end of the cable in cement and dangle the rest of the cable over the cliff to create a Tarzan style hand over hand beach access. Now modern stairs complete with handrails and a drinking fountain welcomes the divers to the beach

The beach scene I remember so well from my youth is now only a distant memory, but they are memories of gold as were the hills surrounding the cove.

In the genesis of recreational diving the beach was populated with young athletic sun tanned male youths clad in the diving costume of the era, baggy long underwear, tucked in to equally baggy swim trunks, round diving masks on their faces,(mine was Sturgil made) short green fins on their feet (Churchills) and the weapon of choice a “Jab Stick” (a pole spear powered by the trust of the arm) unceremoniously stuck in the ground.

Like ancient tribes returning from a successful hunt they stood in small groups, wrapped in surplus WWII olive drab army or navy blue blankets, shivering and blue lipped from the cold of the water and the chill in the air. Roaring bonfires fed by WWII surplus tires added much needed warmth as it belched fourth thick heavy black smoke into the clean crisp smog free Orange County air.

Now Divers Cove has become a popular diving destination for dive training classes. It is populated every Saturday and Sunday morning by young fuzzy faced certified diving instructors who have arrived before 7:00 to conduct the final ocean check out dive for their classes of aspiring divers. Under the ever-watchful eye of their SCUBA instructor, young and old, male and female don the costume of modern diving. Bright colored wet suits have replaced the long underwear for thermal protection; clear form fitting twin lens masks of clear silicone replaced the black round rubber masks; multi hued long lightweight split plastic fins now adorn their feet replacing the short green Churchill fins. Not a spear fishing weapon is insight, since this area has been a game reserve for over a generation.

Yes, there have been a lot of changes in the last sixty plus years. Tomas Wolfe’s message has been verified. You can't go home again, but you can relive fond memories from the distant past and dream and hope for the future of recreational diving.

Only the sea, the eternal sea, has relentlessly remained the same.............
sdm

And that was the way it was....a long time ago...in the beginning..sdm
 
Currently available blended Neoprene wetsuit material is the biggest limitation to diving without a BC. Rubatex G231n was the dominant wetsuit material about 20 years ago and didn't compress nearly as much, so a BC was much less important. Unfortunately, Rubatex has gone out of business and I have not been able to find an equivalent material.
 
First time I ever used a BCD was in 1989 while diving with a Cousteau team. It was required gear. I kept trying to descend, but it kept inflating. The DM told me that couldn't be happening. I told her to watch as I descended. Indeed it was autoinflating. She asked me how we could deal with this (since I'd been diving for 26 years by then). I said I'd just disconnect it and continue the dive. She was surprised. I said I'd been diving without one for decades and the dive proceeded just fine. Today I wouldn't dive without one unless I had to. I did have to make an "emergency" ascent from 200 fsw while diving Catalina's Ship Rock when my bladder blew a hole in it... that was not much fun.

DrBill, how could a BCD Bladder blow a hole at 200fsw ?
Im OW and never been to 200ft but would you even have air in a BCD at that depth?
If so I wouldn't think one would have much at all, and then the water pressure would blow the bladder? A bladder that's not stressed from over expansion from the air inside?
 
"But we are diving in northern maine lakes... 7mil farmer john/ jacket with gloves and hood... water temp at 50' feet was 38 degrees
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Jim..."


Yeah, that could definitely be rough on monkeys.





Wait... maybe....
Polar Monkeys or Ice Monkeys! Dry Suit Monkeys! It could work.

(I better keep my mouth shut or people will try it.)

If Lloyd Bridges during a dive on Sea Hunt had his tank slip out of its cam band and he had swim with it under his arm, it could have been considered early 'monkey diving'. There's a fine line between diving monkey and diving pioneer.

:D _ I crack myself up smiley_
 
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