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    Quote Originally Posted by chrpai
    I seem to remember one time in Croatia where they almost did kill a diver. I'm not sure if he was wearing OMS gear or not though.
    "They"?

    Who... the UN? LOL
    Last edited by cornfed; February 4th, 2004 at 09:10 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmuise
    I just bought a used halcyon plate & harness. Looks like I'll be "doing it right" by finishing it off with an Oxycheq wing...
    Wait, let me get this straight; rather than buying the best wing for your application, you’re going to buy something less because you read about a lawsuit(s) on the Internet? That sounds smart! Isn’t it customary to have the hanging after the trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeS
    Isn’t it customary to have the hanging after the trial?
    Legally, yes. However the court of public opinion has it's own rules...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeS
    Wait, let me get this straight; rather than buying the best wing for your application, you’re going to buy something less because you read about a lawsuit(s) on the Internet? That sounds smart! Isn’t it customary to have the hanging after the trial?
    After doing research for the wing that I've recently ordered, the Oxycheq was the best for me. Forget Halcyon.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricZombie
    Interesting. I think weight pockets and trim weights have been around long before Halcyon started making them.

    However, Halcyon certainly does have a legitimate complaint against OMS. The new OMS wing looks like an exact copy of the Pioneer. I'm not familiar with OxyCheq products so, I don't know if they are really copying Halcycon gear or not. I have seen a few pictures of their wings online, and the single tank wings do look similiar to the Pioneer.

    I dont' see any need to boycott Halcyon as we don't know enough details concerning the suit. For all we know, their claim may be justified.

    Regardless, I'll keep buying their products until something better is made.
    Something better IS made. IMO, OMS, Abyss, & Oxycheq make better products than Halcyon. The only wing failures I've heard about have been Halcyon wings. Its also been my experience that the company with the inferior product is the one who files suit. Looks to me like Halcyon is afraid of the competition, and they should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectricZombie
    However, Halcyon certainly does have a legitimate complaint against OMS. The new OMS wing looks like an exact copy of the Pioneer. I'm not familiar with OxyCheq products so, I don't know if they are really copying Halcycon gear or not. I have seen a few pictures of their wings online, and the single tank wings do look similiar to the Pioneer.
    The suits are not for wing design, just weight-integration and a surface survival system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeS
    Wait, let me get this straight; rather than buying the best wing for your application, you’re going to buy something less because you read about a lawsuit(s) on the Internet? That sounds smart! Isn’t it customary to have the hanging after the trial?
    Not so, better equipment is made by better people. Dive Rite, Oxycheq and Abyss to name a few make better wings cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caveseeker7
    Companies served:

    Products sold at EE:
    Aqualung/Apeks/Suunto, Brownies Third Lung; DUI International, Halcyon, Mares, Scubapro/Uwatec

    Products sold by Brownies Southport Divers:
    Halcyon; DUI International, Mares, Scubapro/Uwatec

    Guess they both realize empty store shelves aren't good and Halcyon/Brownies alone ain't gonna cut it.
    Brownies also carries Cressi-Sub.

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    Jonnythan has offered to host the complaint file for me, it should be up shortly, watch this thread for a link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warren_l
    After doing research for the wing that I've recently ordered, the Oxycheq was the best for me. Forget Halcyon.....
    And your point would be?

    Buying an Oxycheq wing based on research makes sense to me. Ruling out potential choices because you read about a lawsuit on the Internet makes no sense to me.

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