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    I also wonder who "we" is?? It seems that most of "us" already know where he "isn't".

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    This came out in the news last night.

    While I feel for all the family has gone through, I have to say that them still trying to pay divers to go video tape the cave for them is just a bad idea and will lead to other people who are not properly trained (like their son wasn't) getting hurt in that cave...



    There is a news video in the link if you want to watch it.


    Family ponders fate of Collierville man who disappeared near cav - Action News 5 - Memphis, Tennessee


    Family ponders fate of Collierville man who disappeared near cave
    Posted: May 11, 2011 3:03 PM CDT Updated: May 11, 2011 10:00 PM CDT
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    COLLIERVILLE, TN -

    (WMC-TV) - Family members believe the body of a Collierville man who disappeared during a dive trip to Florida last summer may be trapped in an underwater cave.

    Ben McDaniel, 30, disappeared at Vortex Spring in August of 2010. His parents, Patty and Shelby, along with this brother, Tim, live on a farm in Collierville.

    Ben was an expert at deep water diving and wanted to be an instructor. Vortex Spring was an ideal place to train, with a deep underwater cave – an exciting thing for an adventurer like Ben.

    No one knows what happened to Ben. For weeks, family members say, he wanted to explore deep inside the cave - a place with a sign that warns divers to beware they could lose their life. There's a locked gate on the entrance to the cave, a long tunnel with some parts so narrow a diver has to put his tanks in front of him to get through.

    Only divers certified to enter the cave can go in, and they must have a key to unlock the gate. Ben McDaniel was not certified, and employees at Vortex Spring told investigators they believe he may have tampered with the gate to gain access. Ben's family believes someone left the gate unlocked.

    One thing is for certain, however: Ben never came back up.

    "Our faith in God is what has really got us through this," said Ben's mother, Patty. "It's really taught us to take one day at a time, and sometimes minute by minute."

    Investigators have not determined how or if Ben actually got inside the cave. For months, specially trained divers have made dozens of attempts to find any sign of him, each time re-surfacing with more questions. According to family members, there is no sign of his equipment, or of foul play.

    "There are all kinds of possibilities he could be somewhere else," said Capt. Harry Hamilton of the Holmes County Sheriff's Office. "Again, we want to rule out this one location, and it's an extremely hard location to get to.

    In an interview last month with reporters in Florida, investigators noted theories Ben may have disappeared on land, not in the water.

    Some have speculated Ben faked his death, but those who knew him say that's not possible.

    "There's no indication that he walked off," his mother said. "He had too much going for him to do that. He left his money, his cell phone, his truck, his dog."

    Now, the McDaniels are raising money to hire an experienced diver willing to risk their own life to travel the entire length of the cave, video tape it, and possibly bring Ben's body home.

    "If another one of these divers were missing, Ben would go down there for them," his brother said.

    If you want to contribute to the McDaniel's reward for information that brings Ben's body home, click here. You'll find contact information for the family through a foundation set up to honor their first son, who passed away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_s View Post
    This came out in the news last night.


    Family ponders fate of Collierville man who disappeared near cave
    Posted: May 11, 2011 3:03 PM CDT Updated: May 11, 2011 10:00 PM CDT
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    Ben was an expert at deep water diving and wanted to be an instructor.
    Alrighty then.

    Now, the McDaniels are raising money to hire an experienced diver willing to risk their own life to travel the entire length of the cave, video tape it, and possibly bring Ben's body home.

    "If another one of these divers were missing, Ben would go down there for them," his brother said.
    I wonder who the "expert" is they're gonna hire?
    The polar opposite of a Fountain of Knowledge is a Font of Nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cave Diver View Post
    Alrighty then.


    I wonder who the "expert" is they're gonna hire?
    hell... Edd gave them their answer for "FREE"


    (free to them... it costs Edd a lot of money to bust ass to get home, be away from his family and shop, to search for a unthankful family that basically called them "cowards" afterwards... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cave Diver View Post
    I wonder who the "expert" is they're gonna hire?
    Don't rightly know but if they do find someone and that someone finds the body, does that qualify them for a PADI "Body Recovery Specialty"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDSC View Post
    Don't rightly know but if they do find someone and that someone finds the body, does that qualify them for a PADI "Body Recovery Specialty"?
    Yes, because they will be the one getting recovered. Its only a one time honor but look at the publicity Darwin Award winners get.
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    I have chosen to replace this:

    Quote Originally Posted by mike_s View Post
    Ben was an expert at deep water diving and wanted to be an instructor. Vortex Spring was an ideal place to train, with a deep underwater cave - an exciting thing for an adventurer like Ben.
    with this:

    Ben was an expert at applying bandages and wanted to be a surgeon. Removing your own appendix is an ideal way to train, with great inherent risks for the untrained - an exciting thing for an adventurer like Ben.
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    I'm not a cave diver nor do I desire to be one. I do dive Vortex on occasion and stay my butt out of the cave.
    Anyway, I read through the article and this sentence made me wonder:
    "None of Ben's dive equipment was found — no fin, no tank, no nozzles, no mask."
    Was this just another case of a writer knowing nothing about SCUBA or is "nozzle" slang for something?

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