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The discussion of IPE has been split off from a thread in the Accidents and Incidents forum in order to allow that thread to remain on topic and still permit a full discussion of the incidence of IPE in dive accidents in general.
When Schock surfaced, he told his team partner - who was with him during the training - that he couldn’t breath, Wright wrote.Schock’s partner immediately tried to give him his own respirator, “but under the stress and duress of the situation, Officer Schock pushed away the apparatus and went back under water,” Wright wrote.
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"Equality of opportunity or equality of outcome?
One is consistent with a free people and the other requires a police state. Pick one." ~Cool Hardware52
I, alone, am responsible for my health and safety, my actions and inactions.
"If a small thing has the power to make you angry, does that not indicate something about your size?" ~Sydney J. Harris
Great news for vacation divers who cannot talk themselves into buying a personal CO tank tester!
>> Rent one for a week or longer here <<
Now let's see more CO readings in your trip reports, ok...??
"Equality of opportunity or equality of outcome?
One is consistent with a free people and the other requires a police state. Pick one." ~Cool Hardware52
I, alone, am responsible for my health and safety, my actions and inactions.
"If a small thing has the power to make you angry, does that not indicate something about your size?" ~Sydney J. Harris
First thing I said when I had my PE hit on surfacing was 'I can't breathe'. I tried to shout it. It was barely audible. I knew that a key thing I need to do was to let people know what the problem was before I couldn't speak anymore. Someone offering me a reg would have been exactly no use at all.
Sounds like could be a PE hit to me but would be good to have more information. Prayers to his loved ones.
My first thought was IPE as well. It doesn't matter if it's a newbie or not (which he wasn't). We aren't taught about Immersion Pulmonary Edema and we need to increase the awareness of the affliction and how to recognize it and what to do about it.
I was asked by the Ontario Underwater Council to write an article on IPE and it has been completed and will be published in the January/February issue of Ontario Diver. I'll post a link once it's published, hopefully soon. I did the most exhaustive research I could and tried to cut through all the medicalese and made it as comprehensive and understandable as I could (in spite of a fair bit not being known about it) so we can try to understand it, prevent it and/or nip it in the bud.
On a large pile of smokin' A'a, the most isolated population center on the face of the earth. 2,175 miles to Alaska, 2,390 miles to California; 3,850 miles to Japan; 4,900 miles to China; 5,280 miles to the Philippines.
I refuse to believe that corporations are people until Texas executes one.
"Too often ... people enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought" - Leapfrog
"They are the McDonalds of diver certification. Quick, inexpensive and tasty. Pardon me for saying so, but I also believe it to be a health hazard." - DCBC
"It truly does boil down to motivation ... if you believe something is hard, or unnecessary to learn, you won't learn it ... even if it's completely within your capability" - Bob (Grateful Diver)
On a large pile of smokin' A'a, the most isolated population center on the face of the earth. 2,175 miles to Alaska, 2,390 miles to California; 3,850 miles to Japan; 4,900 miles to China; 5,280 miles to the Philippines.
Abstract: Pulmonary oedema of immersion is a rare complication of scuba diving. A case and brief discussion of the differential diagnosis and pathophysiology are presented. Onset of symptoms typically occurs during the dive, and is characterized by dyspnoea, cough and frothy sputum. Spontaneous recovery frequently occurs once the diver leaves the water. If investigated, the findings are of hypoxaemia and chest X-ray changes typical of pulmonary oedema. The differential diagnosis includes decompression illness, pulmonary barotrauma,
near drowning, salt water aspiration syndrome and non-diving causes of pulmonary oedema. The condition may be precipitated by the increase in pulmonary capillary hydrostatic pressure that occurs on immersion, coupled with the imposition of a pressure gradient between mouth pressures and hydrostatic pressure at the chest in the upright diver, and the imposition of more negative intra-alveolar pressures during breathing of a denser gas or from a poorly tuned regulator. Divers with heart disease, hypertension, or taking negative inotropic agents may be at greater risk.
I refuse to believe that corporations are people until Texas executes one.
"Too often ... people enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought" - Leapfrog
"They are the McDonalds of diver certification. Quick, inexpensive and tasty. Pardon me for saying so, but I also believe it to be a health hazard." - DCBC
"It truly does boil down to motivation ... if you believe something is hard, or unnecessary to learn, you won't learn it ... even if it's completely within your capability" - Bob (Grateful Diver)
"Equality of opportunity or equality of outcome?
One is consistent with a free people and the other requires a police state. Pick one." ~Cool Hardware52
I, alone, am responsible for my health and safety, my actions and inactions.
"If a small thing has the power to make you angry, does that not indicate something about your size?" ~Sydney J. Harris
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