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Near Misses and Lessons Learned Here is a forum to discuss those incidents that ended well but could easily have ended badly, and the lessons learned from them.

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Old July 17th, 2008, 11:40 PM   #31
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That's what I though initially, however if you look at the picture, you'll notice the hose comes up under the right arm, across the chest, then around the neck, but never makes a complete circle around the neck.

In fact, if you have a 5' hose, it's not actually long enough to strangle yourself with (it can't make a complete circle around your neck) when routed like that.

I just switched to doubles and long hose, and I have to say that after spending years with a short hose and Air-2, this is a lot easier to actually share air with.

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Huh?
The chick is using a conventional (30" ?) primary reg and a typical octo (36-40"?). Don't get the point of your post. (Now I am painting my kids room, so the paint thinner might be taking it's toll). But what is this about about hoses under arms, 5ft hoses and strangulation?
I jumped back in the back end of the thread. What I miss?
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Old July 18th, 2008, 12:32 AM   #32
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I don't think a bungeed backup would have made a difference. The problem was not that she couldn't locate her backup, it's that she didn't even think to look for it.
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Old July 18th, 2008, 01:00 AM   #33
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Missing the point?

No... the problem was the initial failure.

Avoid this type of failure.

Cable tie the mouthpiece to the reg, but first- smear some GOOP on the mating surfaces.



It will come off when you want it to.
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Old July 18th, 2008, 10:07 AM   #34
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Huh?
The chick is using a conventional (30" ?) primary reg and a typical octo (36-40"?). Don't get the point of your post. (Now I am painting my kids room, so the paint thinner might be taking it's toll). But what is this about about hoses under arms, 5ft hoses and strangulation?
I jumped back in the back end of the thread. What I miss?
I was referring to this:
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like: isn't this (Hogarthian) likely to strangle you?!
from a previous post.

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Old July 18th, 2008, 12:22 PM   #35
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it's that she didn't even think to look for it.
There was a very sad story in my local paper about a 14 year old boy who drowned in a swimming pool. The head lifeguard said that a drowning person has from 20-30 seconds from the time they start to inhale water before panic sets in. Not a whole lot of time.
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No... the problem was the initial failure.

Avoid this type of failure.

Cable tie the mouthpiece to the reg, but first- smear some GOOP on the mating surfaces.



It will come off when you want it to.
Not a bad idea. I used to use this on the tip of my surfboards. In a few months it turns ugly yellow...but it holds fast.
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Not a bad idea. I used to use this on the tip of my surfboards. In a few months it turns ugly yellow...but it holds fast.
What is this goop? The only goop I know of is a hand cleaner? Assuming it is an adhesive, what sort of fumes does it give off? And how bad is that going to be breathing that stuff at depth? I'm thinking about the increased partial pressure of what ever vapors this stuff is giving off in you system. Don't we want to breath nice, clean, pure air (or other gas mixes)?

I wouldn't want to get like someone that has been huffing solvents while diving.

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The head lifeguard said that a drowning person has from 20-30 seconds from the time they start to inhale water before panic sets in.
I'd be very surprised if it's even that long.
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Old July 19th, 2008, 12:48 PM   #39
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I'd be very surprised if it's even that long.
Here is the exact quote. It was not how I remembered it, but I think the lifeguard was talking about a different kind of situation where the victim is at the surface.

You have 20 to 60 seconds with a fully active drowning victim before they panic and go under,” said Steve Diamond, the lifeguard manager at Graydon, who deployed more than a dozen divers without breaks to search the vast pool. “That’s the time frame.”
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Here is the exact quote. It was not how I remembered it, but I think the lifeguard was talking about a different kind of situation where the victim is at the surface.

You have 20 to 60 seconds with a fully active drowning victim before they panic and go under,” said Steve Diamond, the lifeguard manager at Graydon, who deployed more than a dozen divers without breaks to search the vast pool. “That’s the time frame.”
In life guarding, a "fully active drowning victim" is a swimmer at the surface flailing about, high treading, etc. They're the panicked diver at the surface we're all warned about in Rescue class. They're breathing air, but not for long.
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