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Near Misses and Lessons LearnedHere is a forum to discuss those incidents that ended well but could easily have ended badly, and the lessons learned from them.
Very interesting to see that her reaction was to grab her buddy's primary, even though her octo was closer and, of course, her buddy's octo was available. That goes along with what I've heard OOA divers "will" do, as opposed to what we're all trained to do. Hand signs? What hand signs?
Very interesting to see that her reaction was to grab her buddy's primary, even though her octo was closer and, of course, her buddy's octo was available. That goes along with what I've heard OOA divers "will" do, as opposed to what we're all trained to do. Hand signs? What hand signs?
Thanks for posting.
There is a big difference between training to do and being told to do.
This is a great example why continued training is so important.
To me this diver had not thought through the scenario and played "what if" enough. Her octo was available but not readily visible; her primary was available and visible, but with no mouthpiece, yet she bolted for her buddy and his primary.
Why not grab her primary, hold it in her mouth, and breathe through it until she got her wits about her and made a decision on what to do with the rest of the dive?
Why not grab her primary, hold it in her mouth, and breathe through it until she got her wits about her and made a decision on what to do with the rest of the dive?
My thoughts exactly. A second stage doesnt need a mouthpiece to breathe off of it.
Wow looks like she blew it totally, I'm saving this one in my iphone favorites to show when taking rescue class. She totally started to bail for the surface, then she's reaching down to grab the reg. Thanks for posting I never would have though the mouth piece would separate from the reg but looking its just a zip tie. I think it would have confused me to suddenly be getting water, while still feeling it in your mouth. I doubt she saw the reg fall away from it. I'm a newbie but so far had my primary kicked away once and thru my own silly mistake once yanked it out myself, but each time I'm glad I've had one hand going for it and the other instinctively heading down for my octo.
manikin198 - have you ever been in a real lifethreatening situation? I doubt it, cause then you would have known that a normal person would panic. Yes, we were trained in those things, but she panicked! that's why you should always dive with a buddy, so they can help you when you panic. if you just want to show off what you know about diving, please don't do it here. I promise you, I know more.
I like how the photographer saw her lose her air source and even when she was beginning to bolt for the surface made sure he kept her in frame instead of moving to help her.
No doubt she did about 5 things wrong in the 5 seconds after her mouthpiece seperated form the primary but I can see how this would be a confusing problem. Since she lost it on her exhale (of course) she didn't have the luxury of a lung full to work it out and her brain stem got the better of her brain.
This is why I LOVE having my backup bungied under my chin. I haven't lost a reg or had one separate from the mouthpiece, but I have fallen in the water when I didn't expect to be there and had my primary still clipped off, and it's SO easy just to pop that reg that's sitting right under your chin into your mouth.
I don't know whether something like that would have made a difference for this gal; I suspect she hadn't practiced regulator exchanges or out of air scenarios much. Practice DOES help ingrain the response to go for the backup reg.
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