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Old October 12th, 2007, 09:49 PM   #81
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Judge Michael Burton is far less qualified to comment on the accuracies or inaccuracies of the film than are many people who regularly post on this board, I can't take his "rulings" seriously. I agree, however, that the film, because of established economic interests and their political influence and shortsightedness, should be viewed as polemical and evaluated on that basis.
Agreed, but it has had a significant impact on our culture, I'd say.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 01:23 AM   #82
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Uh-ohhh more acadenic freedoms...pitched out the window

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

The University of Virginia's climatology data center is seeking a lower profile after its former top official, the state climatologist, resigned this past summer amid questions over whether he should use the position to promote his doubts about theories on global warming.

The Climatology Office has been renamed, dropping a formal reference to the state in its name. The office receives half its $183,000 operating budget from the state and half from U-Va. and is the main outlet in Virginia for information on the impact of weather and climate on economic and ecological systems.

The former state climatologist, Patrick J. Michaels, has been on sabbatical from the university for the past year, said Joseph C. Zieman, chairman of the school's Department of Environmental Sciences, which houses the center. Zieman said Michaels resigned the post this summer and was replaced by U-Va. research scientist Jerry Stenger, who has been running the center without the formal state title. Stenger has worked at the center for more than 20 years....

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You know... come to think of it... this wouldn't be the first time politicians jumped on the "science" bandwagon and cited authority over natural phenomena to gain power.

Stonehenge, solar eclipses... if you can label it, you control it... and the populace will be cowed in amazement.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 02:17 PM   #84
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very true DiverBry, well put, good form!

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Old October 13th, 2007, 03:27 PM   #85
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Home - Global Warming Petition Project
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There is just no end to the horse pucky that those who deny global warming gin up:

The "Global Warming Petition Project" was a started by the George C. Marshall Institute, whose chair, Frederick Seitz, is affiliated with the Global Climate Coalition (an industry group self styled as "the voice for business in the global warming debate"), and the Oregon Institute for Science and Medicine, a group whose leader is a biochemist described as "specializing in home schooling and building nuclear shelters" (Los Angeles Times, 8/17/98).

The only requirement for signing OISM's petition was a bachelors degree in science. OISM's screening process was so lax that for a time the list also included a number of gag names added by environmentalists, including Ginger Spice and Michael J. Fox.

The OISM petition also came under fire for being deceptively packaged: The petition was accompanied by an article purporting to debunk global warming that was formatted to look as though it had been published in the journal of the National Academy of Sciences. The resemblance was so close that the NAS issued a public statement that the OISM petition "does not reflect the conclusions of expert reports of the Academy." Experts who, might I note, have issued a warning about global warming.

Oh, you didn't know that? You owe the truth an apology for not checking first.
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Global Warming Hoax: The Nobel Peace Prize for a movie full of lies and inaccuracies, goes to a man getting rich from pushing mass-hysteria.
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The LA Times ...now there is bastion of unbiased news reporting ...now excuse me while I pick myself up from the floor ...ROFLOL...

Earth to Thal the only ones left out here on the west coast who turn to the LA Times and San Francisco Chronic-word up-al for news are awaiting the harmonic convergence, think that Crosby, Nash and Stills are going to convince Neil to come back into the fold and of course believe Michael Moore is a primary source ...
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