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    It may very well work. I don't believe anyone here said anything that would indicate it wouldn't work. Keep in mind, no table is 100% safe. The more conservative the table, the less chance of DCS. The more liberal the table, the greater the chance of DCS. There's always a chance. I like to keep my chances of DCS as low as possible, so when using a table, I'll use the most conservative table available. That's not the RDP. You feel free to use the RDP, I won't be offended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dive Source
    Just call me Mulder!

    Actually I have seen some intersting Trolls around the board before and I just had to ask (hope I didn't offend you - not my intent).
    Hey Brian, Nah.... no worries. Really, I thought it was great! Thanks for the invite I hope to get out that way very soon and I will definitely drop by for a visit on the way....besides, I'm in the market for some new gear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter
    It may very well work. I don't believe anyone here said anything that would indicate it wouldn't work. Keep in mind, no table is 100% safe. The more conservative the table, the less chance of DCS. The more liberal the table, the greater the chance of DCS. There's always a chance. I like to keep my chances of DCS as low as possible, so when using a table, I'll use the most conservative table available. That's not the RDP. You feel free to use the RDP, I won't be offended.
    No prob, but my point isn't so much WHICH table, but more-so how a diver chooses to do his "rolling deco" while ascending from whichever table he chooses to use. Basically the divers "actions" have more or less to do with a possible "hit" than just simple old "more conservative NDL's". This is why I had said earlier than the choice of a table, in and of itself is but a very small reason to be PRO or CON any agency.

    I sometimes get "accused" of ascending too slow, which, while possible to be sure, I find that it is more "effective" than 30-60fpm from bottom to 15ft.

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    EEK

    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve
    "Mix"..."Just about anything "reasonable" will work"..."Conservatism"..."table"..."Well in the green"..."dive computer"...

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    Steve I think your quote key is sticking or something.

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    Just wanna make sure I'm not saying I'm the first to use such words, but I did want to emphasize certain wording.

    "Ya know what I mean?"

    Care to add anything to the discussion?

    Maybe some NAUI table examples for a couple 2-3 dive profiles to illustrate the "perceived" difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve
    Care to add anything to the discussion?

    Maybe some NAUI table examples for a couple 2-3 dive profiles to illustrate the "perceived" difference?

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    Yuppers. Back home and getting all caught up on things.

    Add anything...Hmm... Not really. I don't use computers, tables or pc planning software when I dive so I don't really have much interest in the issue to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d33ps1x
    Add anything...Hmm... Not really. I don't use computers, tables or pc planning software when I dive so I don't really have much interest in the issue to be honest.
    Well, me neither for the most part, but that's never stopped either of us from wading in before.

    Do you get bent as often as I do?

    hehehehe, sorry, I was just thinking of a comment made to me a few days ago.

    Good to see you made it home safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve
    Well, me neither for the most part, but that's never stopped either of us from wading in before.

    Do you get bent as often as I do?

    hehehehe

    Good to see you made it home safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve
    This is why I had said earlier than the choice of a table, in and of itself is but a very small reason to be PRO or CON any agency.
    I completely agree. I avoid the RDP because I don't trust the table. The RDP has nothing to do with why I avoid PADI.
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    training from a new diver? no thanks

    Going through this thread brought a question to mind: would I want to receive training from a relatively inexperienced diver?

    I noticed that Jeff, you list yourself as a new diver, and also mention "future students".

    Personally, I beleive that there is no substitute for experience, even with the knowledge available to students and instructors today.

    I know that my instructors had been diving for about 30 years, and his father/partner had been diving for almost as long as diving has been around. Some of the information they pass along is not listed in any manual of any sort, and they provide "real life" examples of the text book lessons that are printed.

    I guess what i am saying is that if i was interested in being an instructor, i would plan on increasing my experience for some time before i decided to pass on my knowledge to others.

    Cheers.

    Quote Originally Posted by WannaLaguna
    Hi Brian,

    I must say reading your response was quite entertaining. I wanted to respond to you and all other conspiracy theorists out there that (as Mdance mentioned) I am very serious about pursuing a professional status as an instructor and was only wondering what agency produced the most qualified talent. No ulterior motives, no evil plots to take over the world, just looking for information. ; )

    I completely agree with what everyone seems to be saying "it comes down to the individual instructor, no matter what card he or she carries in their wallet."

    As far as my site goes and the imagery that is on it; I have worked with PADI through my lds and that is who I am certified with. The site is purely for my future students as an informational site I will not be hocking merchandise or anything of that sort....although you have planted a seed.. : )

    I am extremely passionate about this industry and the education of highly qualified divers. It will be my mission to promote a sport that is fun and more importantly safe. To educate both divers and non-divers about issues related to our underwater environments and how to preserve them for future generations of divers.

    As far as the guts to publish my identity on my profile..?? Why wouldn't I? I want to meet as many people as I can that feel the same way about our sport.

    Cheers everyone and Happy *SAFE diving.

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