Heading to FL in a couple days to start my CCR Cave course!

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It is finally coming! I will be heading to Cave Country FL to begin my CCR Cave training. I am really looking forward to longer dives than I can do with OC & also for the unique quietness being in the cave without bubbles. I know my instructor will be VERY tough on me, he always has been (& I appreciate it!). Looks like I will have my work cut out for me.
 
Awesome! Good luck and have a great time!
 
What shop/instructor are you doing the course with? I'm curious because at some point I will probably be wanting to take a CCR Cave course.
 
I am out of a dive shop in SW Indiana. My instructor is Lawrence (Larry) Babcock- Learn To Scuba Your Adventure Starts Here Welcome To Aquatech, Your Complete Scuba Center for Scuba training, Dive Travel, Equipment and Snorkeling. | Aquatech Scuba CenterScuba Training, Dive Travel, Equipment Sales & Repair The Diving Professionals . He is an excellent tech instructor. He teaches all levels of technical diving (Adv. Nitrox/ DP, Extended Range, cavern, Intro to cave, Full cave, Normoxic Trimix, Hypoxic Trimix) & teaches the Poseidon MKVI & the Hollis Prism2 for rebreathers. He is a VERY demanding, yet fair instructor. With him, your certifications are earned; never given away.
 
Very reassuring :
"He is a VERY demanding, yet fair instructor. With him, your certifications are earned; never given away."

If you receive something for noting it is worth nothing. If you have to put very little effort into and activity it also has little value. The more difficult the class the more you will lean

Good luck in your new adventure...You have certainly come a long way.


SDM
 
My only comment is that your cave instructor isn't an instructor with either of the two true cave training agencies the NACD or NSS-CDS.

That would be a huge caution light for a CCR Cave Instructor choice for most folks I know in Cave Country.
 
Today (Thurs.) we did a 143 min. dive in Peacock as a "shakedown" dive. It took me the first 30 min. or so to acclimate to the different configuration & buoyancy characteristics of the rebreather. We went from the Olsen/ Pothole line to the Peanut line via the crossover tunnel. With all the ups & downs, it was a real test of my buoyancy skills. Not only did we do the crossover once,.... my instructor had me to swim through it 2 times back & forth. We went back towards the cavern, where we did some OOA exercises & bailout bottle swaps, then back down the crack on the Olsen/ Pothole line to jump off on the "Well" line. It was a little fuzzy back in there & he let me drop down to the deep section to take a peek. He started having some equalization problems & so we pulled the primary reel & exited the cave. Making the first 2 jumps, while successful, was not the prettiest in technique (still getting used to the buoyancy inside the cave), the 3rd jump was perfect. Overall a successful dive. I learned a lot more about the capabilities of my unit & how to deal with changes within the system.

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My only comment is that your cave instructor isn't an instructor with either of the two true cave training agencies the NACD or NSS-CDS.

That would be a huge caution light for a CCR Cave Instructor choice for most folks I know in Cave Country.

No, he is not NSS-CDS nor NACD (though he has been invited to crossover & instruct for them multiple times over the years)- he just doesn't care for the local politics that are not uncommon within/ between the agencies. He has been teaching under IANTD & TDI for well over 15 yrs. The good thing is, more often than not, the instructor & their teaching methods (so longs as in line with standards) are more important than the agency they teach for. There are excellent instructors & there are not- so- good instructors in every agency. The trick is to find the excellent ones. BTW, I am already at Full Cave level with over 170 cave dives over the past 3- 4 yrs. While not huge, considering the distance I must travel to cave dive, it isn't bad.

---------- Post added October 24th, 2014 at 01:39 AM ----------

Very reassuring :
"He is a VERY demanding, yet fair instructor. With him, your certifications are earned; never given away."

If you receive something for noting it is worth nothing. If you have to put very little effort into and activity it also has little value. The more difficult the class the more you will lean

Good luck in your new adventure...You have certainly come a long way.


SDM

It took me 2 yrs & 3 attempts to get through his Adv. Nitrox & Decompression Procedures course, because, as I discovered at that time that my initial OW & Recreational training was rather shoddy (different instructor & shop). It also took me another 2 yrs & 5 attempts to pass his Full Cave course. I would fail a portion of the class, then go back home to the quarry & practice the skill(s) until they were perfected & second nature, go back & make the next attempt, this was repeated until I was finally able to put it all together & graduate the courses. The biggest reason for the length of time it took to get through, was the distance we have to travel to get to the caves (10 hr drive).

There, I have learned the difference between good & mediocre instruction. I went on to become a recreational instructor under him & (with his blessing) strive to attain & maintain the higher standards he has for scuba instruction. Hopefully within the next year or so, I will be breaking into the technical realms of scuba instruction, with the same drive & passion he has for it.
 
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My only comment is that your cave instructor isn't an instructor with either of the two true cave training agencies the NACD or NSS-CDS.

That would be a huge caution light for a CCR Cave Instructor choice for most folks I know in Cave Country.

I am sorry but that is NOT the case! BTW, two years ago there has been quite the scandal over an NACD instructor caught with drugs. The way the agency handled it and some other garbage came to light. A lot of their members including life-time members, have lost respect for that agency and cancelled their memberships.

My CCR Cave is with IANTD and by Peter Sotis. It is not the agency that makes the training, but the instructor. Sounds like Tammy found an excellent one. GO TAMMY! Wish I could be up there myself :) Have fun, too!
 
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