Nitrox banned and rebreathers confiscated ?!?

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I am flying out to Marsa Alam in the next few days for a 'deep south' liveaboard (Daedalus and Rocky, Fury Shoals, etc) and a member of my local dive club has reported back from further up the Gulf of Aqaba (in Jordan) that "they have confiscated any rebreathers they find and banned diving with them [and] In Oman they have banned nitrox use" (due to increased internation security concerns over potential IS activity).

Any hint of this in Egypt at the moment? No Nitrox would be annoying but nothing compared to how annoyed one of my buddies will be if he has his rebreather confiscated!

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Thanks n'all.
 
I am also off on a LOB next week and have heard or seen nothing to that effect. It would be suicidal for their diving industry I would have thought. Your best bet is to call the operator of your boat.

I'm sure you will.have a wonderful trip.
 
From a RBW member in Jordan, not sure if this is the same bunch of idiots or not:

History of CCR in Jordan

2007 Introduced a Dolphin SCR and started using
and training others to use the unit. No problems occurred.
2008 Started using
Pelagian DCCCR no problems occurred
2009 The Navy visited us and said we
could not use either unit without special permission. We obtained permission
from them and no further problems occurred until January 2011 when ALL dive
centre received a letter saying that ALL types of rebreather we not allowed and
you will be arrested if you are found using one or owning one. (Last bit strange
as they had the serial numbers and data sheets etc for my units!)

In
February 2011 I was asked by the palace in Jordan to help with the Deep Flight
Super Falcon project and train up a safety team in case the mini sub got trapped
at up to 100m depth. They said we could use CCR, the palace purchased there own
unit so I could train staff on the unit. (That unit is still at the Royal yachts
palace with all their other toys)

In April/May 2011 we provided support
for the project also supported by Navy personnel. After which I obtained verbal
permission to use and train people on the unit again with Dive Aqaba and also
permission to invite other CCR divers to dive here with me with any unit. I had
a lot of different CCR divers over that summer.
At end of July 2011 we also
had navy support when we were asked to complete a project for the deepest dive
in Jordan (167m) which the palace and others had gained sponsorship for after
the original organisers had run off with half the sponsorship money and left
them in the lurch!

2011/12 I was using CCRs on a government USAID
sponsored project to clean the deep reef of old nets ropes and fishing lines
that had been spotted by the Deep Flight minisub.

All this time we had no
problems with CCR or others bringing their units.

In February 2014 we had
a group out from the UK with 5 Inspos amongst them and they dived with us for
two weeks, I notified the Navy in advance to make sure it would be OK and again
no problems occurred, I even had a permission letter from the Navy in case
anyone said anything. In 2013 I sold the two Dolphin SCR units I had on e bay as
the demand was dropping and spares becoming scarce.

Then this mid
September (2014) I had another CCR guest out with his unit..he was doing an OC
warm up dive and I was using the last hour on my scrubber up on a shallow wreck
dive here, that way we would both be on the same scrubber use from the following
day.

When we returned with our boat navy personnel boarded the boat and
took photos of my unit which was stripped and packed away in a box (ready for a
scrubber change and clean up etc), they would not let us unload the unit...I
said that I needed to take it back to the centre for maintenance, they then
agreed and told me not to use it for the time being.
The following day a
single Navy person came and asked us to build up the unit so he could see how it
worked. We did this then stripped it down again. We were told to not use in for
now and they would come back in three days.
Later that day the palace
collected there unit from my dive centre and took it back to the
palace.

For a few days they didn't turn up, I had to travel to Dahab,
Egypt the following weekend to help with a PADI IE, when I returned 3 days later
I was told that a group of 3 plains cloths officers from the intelligence
department and a Navy guy turned up, they had insisted the unit was built up
again so they could see it in operation. After that they confiscated the unit
including the tanks etc.

After two weeks of negotiation they refused to
return the unit to me, I suggest that they release the unit to the palace here
so I could use it there for training palace diving guests and diving staff, they
refused saying if that was needed they could use their unit and I could show
them how it works!

I had a customer who had traveled from the US to take
a course with me and arrived two days before all this started! They agreed to
release the unit to her as long as she took it out of the country. She was
leaving on a flight early the following morning, they brought the unit to the
dive centre at 11.30pm that night..we stripped cleaned and packed it. They then
took the bag it was packed in and brought it to the airport when she was about
to board the flight observed the bag checked onto the plane and stayed until the
flight had left. (I will now travel to the US to complete this customers course
early next year)

After all this the navy apologized to us and said it was
out of their hands and was the intelligence departments decision. The palace
personnel just shrugged there shoulders and said they could do nothing to
help.

So that was that, 7 years of pioneering rebreathers here with a lot
of hard work and training. We are still allowed to use OC for the time being so
now I find I am back to old days doing deep air a lot as can't justify the high
cost of Helium here ($400 for a J) just for fun dives and exploring.

The
back history on the whole thing seems to stem from the peace agreement with
Israel brokered in the early 90's. According to a UN friend of mine, as part of
the deal conditions were put on what was allowed here for diving etc...to
prevent us from "attacking" Israel....that list was, no inflatable boats, no
rebreathers, no full face masks, no underwater communication equipment, no DPVs
of any type, no SLR UW Cameras in housing or large video systems (you can get
small compact ones in under the radar!) basically anything other than basic
recreational dive kit.

I think that the ISIS thing in Iraq & Syria
also has indirect causation on this..as everywhere in the world they have
stepped up security..so at the lower echelons they need to be seen to be doing
something...so tightening on diving security could be one of those
things.

Ironically I can run courses on the CCRs from Israel or Egypt in
Dahab which is what I will do in the future. I only teach on the Pelagian to all
levels to 100m (330ft), but now it will be difficult to keep the hours up on the
unit...

I hope that elsewhere in the world members and other CCR users do
not incur similar problems...I feel like someone has taken my Ferrari away and I
have to use my small Fiat on the racetrack!
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Well, let's just hope that nobody trains these Ah on rebreathers. If they want to strap one on, it better be a suicide mission!
 
I know Rod Abbotson and have dived with him in Aqaba a couple of years ago, he runs "Dive Aqaba" and told me back then of the paranoia associated with rebreathers. I also had major headaches leaving Jordan (Amman airport) with my SLRs and housing, never again will I go through that krap.

Seems the Israelis are worried somebody will use a rebreather and swim from Aqaba to Eilat and blow something up.

The Nitrox ban in Oman is new to me, I don't see any logic to that, but logic is not common around these parts, I will need to check with Oman Dive and Sail, they have invested heavily with a membrane system and I don't see how somebody can police the use of different gases, but as I said logic uncommon.

I actually drove into Oman today to get to the east coast of UAE as part of a visa run for my daughter and had a set of doubles and an AL80 with EAN32, and two AL80s with EAN 40 for today's diving, nobody even checked the back of my car.

---------- Post added October 24th, 2014 at 04:44 PM ----------

Just spoken with Richard Bacani of Oman Dive and Sail and he confirmed that Nitrox is freely available and no ban exists in Oman
 
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