Scubapro MK10 & Atomic B2, are they copy of each other

[eelnoraa]

I picked up a mint M10 tonight from craiglist. When I first saw it, I thought the seller made a mistake by giving me a Atomic B2. The shape, size, swivel turnet, HP/LP port locations are all the same. And I heard MK10 breath just a good. Did one copy the other?

 

[knowone]

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[eelnoraa]

I can read their website. If Atomic really didn't the reverse engineering, which I am not saying they did, they won't list on their own website.

Anyone has more insight?

 

[diversteve]

After generating numerous groundbreaking patents for a major manufacturer

That would be Scubapro...

 

[Zung]

In non-encrypted form: the guys above designed the Scubapro regs, then left to form Atomic.

 

[knowone]

After generating numerous groundbreaking patents for a major
manufacturer, they established Atomic Aquatics in 1995.

Simple, tons of information.

 

[herman]

What they are really great at is hyping themselves.....how else do you take a line of SP clones and make people think are vastly superior.

 

[BKP]

What they are really great at is hyping themselves.....how else do you take a line of SP clones and make people think are vastly superior.

They're not clones if designed by the same engineer that designed the original...

Happens all the time in every industry (mine included), and the typical progression is the original designer takes their leave (along with taking their original creativity and talent), and produces a new product based on their earlier designs, but with progressive improvements... it's an old story...

This isn't to say that Atomic is "better" than ScubaPro, merely that designers/inventors do tend to improve on their own designs over time...

 

[drbill]

I dive exclusively with Mk10 first stages and love them at any depth from the surface to 200 ft. Even the one that "failed" breathed great down to 125 ft in Belize... just needed its core replaced when I got back due to the two cracks in it. Some day when I'm not a dive bum I'll try the Atomics that my #1 dive buddy Andrea swears by.