Do any tech training agencies teach "rescue in tech diving situations"??

[WheelerDealer]

I am just now starting my research into technical dive training and in trying to gather all of the information I can a question popped up in my mind that I thought some of you could probably answer. I want to know if any of the tech training agencies teach rescue techniques in real world tech diving situations i.e., a convulsing diver, a diver suffering a supposed oxtox hit, Co2 problems, unconscious diver, etc. etc. etc.. And by that I mean do they actually teach you what to do if any of these things happen to your buddy or another diver while in the water and in an overhead type environment, i.e. cave, wreck, deco obligation, deep. While I have not asked this specific question to any of the instructors I have spoken with I have not heard any of them mention that they do train for these situations. Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks

[theskull]

Those topics were covered in my IANTD Technical Cave and Trimix courses.

But guess what? It's going to depend more on the quality and thoroughness of the individual instructor than on the agency they teach for. Imagine that.

So the usual disclaimers: pick your instructor by getting referrals from as many technical divers as you know and admire. Then speak with the instructor you believe you would like to learn from and ask questions such as those you posted, as well as discussing the type of dives you plan to make and why you want to make them, what equipment will be used and what will be required for you to own, and how many dives and drills will be involved in working toward the certification.

Good luck, and safe diving,
theskull

[pipedope]

They integrate it into the training by having drills and practice on every dive.

It is worthwhile to check with potential instructors to see what is going to be covered and how.

Remember, it is important that you know these things but also your buddies. After all, you might be the one in trouble.

[IndigoBlue]

There would normally be a special rescue session in the technical advanced nitrox course. During this course you would learn about pushing your PO2s to 1.3 or 1.4 at MOD and to 1.6 at deco, although not actually doing it, just learning of it. Therefore this is the course when an actual session of rescuing an unconscious or convulsing underwater victim would normally be relevant. It also serves as a good review of basic rescue procedure of an unconscious submerged diver as well. That is also why basic nitrox and basic rescue are both good prerequisites to advanced nitrox. The prerequisite to basic rescue is normally CPR & first aid.

Ask the instructors you are talking to about how much emphasis they give to this special rescue drill. Some of them just talk about it. Others would actually make you perform the drill in a pool or in open water. Same is true of gas-sharing drills.

[jamiemac]

really good point, but a nasty one . and up until a few years ago i would have told you the normal line - ' if you plan well you can prevent these problems etc etc'

but things do go wrong, and even though sometimes the outcome isn't sucessfulful, we learn each time. anyone who tells you tecdiving has minimal risk hasn't done it enough.

i don't think there are formal rescue training sessions in any agency's programs (and there can't be due to all the variables), other than surface drills, S-drills etc, but discussion and experience will count.

on every dive prepare for the worst , 99% of the time you won't need to.

Jamie MV Trident

[cerich]

IN NAUI, by standards, we teach some rescue with every course, recreational or tech.

Best,

Chris

NAUI REC AND TECH Course Director