Dive Eq using Double Tanks

[wb5plj]

What??! What bodies have you been asked to retrieve that have GUE "magic cards"? Please answer this question directly. What bodies? How many? You should be careful what you post, because if you can't back it up with real numbers and it turns out to be utter horse droppings, everything else you have to say loses all credibility.

So, exactly how may GUE diver's bodies have you been asked to retrieve?

Let me bet every piece of gear I own that you have NEVER taken ANY GUE class, and therefore know not of what you speak.

So you took the time to bold the sentence but didn't read it I guess. where did you get "I" out of that. no, never mind I don't really want to know.

OH! you found me out! and proved my point at the same time! kudos to you! I have never taken a GUE class or even a DIR class. the last cert I took was a PADI recreational level course I will point out that I never implied that I had taken any of them. And thoughtfully your comment points out that well, if I haven't taken the course I can have no valuable comment of any kind. right thanks for making my point for me, and quite frankly better than I ever could have.

 

[wb5plj]

Why don't you update your profile, because according to it you should not even be diving doubles or recovering bodies. Let me go one step further and throw up a BS flag on you for the part of "recovering GUE divers" or any other ones.

what would I update it with? the number of dives that I have had? I don't think that I have any more certifications than are on there. Oh let me guess, now we have to print out our scubaboard profile and keep it in our pocket in case we go diving with doubles. Great another piece of paper that tells us what we know or don't know how to do. "Should not even be diving doubles", right, because that privilege is defined by a certification alone and once certified there of course are no more questions. "he's putting his tanks on upside down!", "well he has got a certification" You also proved my point. Thank you very much.

"recovering bodies"? now you did it too didn't you? I don't refer to my self in the plural by the way.

 

[Rick Inman]

These classes with thier idology mills are churning out more and more divers that have no clue why thier gear is configured a certan way other than that is the DIR way, or GUE way, or some other way, but that won't stop them from propagating their faith, or attacking anyone that deviates. These are the bodies we are asked to retrieve. and if you look around in there stuff you will usualy find that magic card.

So you took the time to bold the sentence but didn't read it I guess. where did you get "I" out of that. no, never mind I don't really want to know.

OK, you said, "WE". Who is the "we" and how many GUE bodies? "We" of course means you and others. How many GUE bodies have you and others together recovered? In fact, how many GUE bodies do you know of that have been recovered?

You didn't answer the question the first time because I didn't refer to the "we" in you sentence. Will you answer it now? Really, I want to know.

 

[imasinker]

Good Evening, what is the standard set of using double tanks? 3-1st stages, 3-2nd stages and how many set of gauges? & on what 1st stages are the gauges used? TIA

Good evening. Let me be the first to say don't feel stupid by your question. We "all" of us divers were new and let's face it not all the scuba smart from the get go! You sound like your trying to figure out how doubles work. That's great! You can get all kinds of source material from the internet and yes there are many great tools to help you understand the theory of diving doubles and set to gear configurations. What some of the replies state basically is there is nothing wrong with researching via the internet or books on anything pertaining to scuba. With saying that it is sadly the outcome of these means of learning that some people feel they know everything about diving" after reading source material. I am new to diving; I was certified last May and have logged 70 dives to date and still diving. I have taken courses, basic, advanced and equipment specialist and soon nitrox. I will keep taking courses because I have to trust those who dive, those who continue their education an forge a better means of learning because they are divers themselves. No book can give you real life experience and always remember that. Picking an agency for your dive certificates is like picking a brand of car, being Chevy, Ford or Chrysler. None are better but just different in some ways with better options and styles and since we all differ so will our interests. Every ones opinion will vary and it will be your final opinion that makes you decide where you will go. One thing research can do for you on a more uncomfortable level is confuse the living crap out of you when you read replies such as these off topic ones. Scuba Board has many great channels to review just keep reading through. There is no substitute for real life lessons, and in scuba the only way you will really learn anything is by taking the courses and learning hands on from those who do it every day.

My two cents.

 

[potablewater]

 

[b1gcountry]

What some of the replies state basically is there is nothing wrong with researching via the internet or books on anything pertaining to scuba. With saying that it is sadly the outcome of these means of learning that some people feel they know everything about diving" after reading source material.

This made me think a little. The advice I get from people in real life is often balanced off the experiences I have with that person in the real world. I've noticed that divers of all levels always have advice for anyone who cares to listen. When you are with them in person you get the chance to evaluate their skill level for yourself, and you can get a very good idea of what their advice is worth based on how they dive. There are a couple people I know that dive very differently than I do, whose opinion I can respect because they've found a way that works very well for them, and I can see the results.

You just can't tell over the internet. You need very good BS filters to tell if someone is giving good advice or not. The guy giving you buoyancy advice here on SB might be the same guy you would be cringing at if you saw him in the water.

Tom

 

[coldsmoke]

The guy giving you buoyancy advice here on SB might be the same guy you would be cringing at if you saw him in the water.

You add weight when transitioning from salt water to fresh water right?

Hunter

 

[imasinker]

This made me think a little. The advice I get from people in real life is often balanced off the experiences I have with that person in the real world. I've noticed that divers of all levels always have advice for anyone who cares to listen. When you are with them in person you get the chance to evaluate their skill level for yourself, and you can get a very good idea of what their advice is worth based on how they dive. There are a couple people I know that dive very differently than I do, whose opinion I can respect because they've found a way that works very well for them, and I can see the results.

You just can't tell over the internet. You need very good BS filters to tell if someone is giving good advice or not. The guy giving you buoyancy advice here on SB might be the same guy you would be cringing at if you saw him in the water.

Tom

I agree with you on this!

I guess my winded point I was trying to make was there is nothing wrong with seeking info on the net on books, you brought up a valid point!

 

[b1gcountry]

You add weight when transitioning from salt water to fresh water right?

Hunter

Yeah, it helps me get down faster

 

[LowVizWiz]

This made me think a little. The advice I get from people in real life is often balanced off the experiences I have with that person in the real world. I've noticed that divers of all levels always have advice for anyone who cares to listen. When you are with them in person you get the chance to evaluate their skill level for yourself, and you can get a very good idea of what their advice is worth based on how they dive. There are a couple people I know that dive very differently than I do, whose opinion I can respect because they've found a way that works very well for them, and I can see the results.

You just can't tell over the internet. You need very good BS filters to tell if someone is giving good advice or not. The guy giving you buoyancy advice here on SB might be the same guy you would be cringing at if you saw him in the water.

Tom

Tom,
I think the you're absolutely right, good BS filters are needed! But the problem comes when people take on the job of BS filters for everyone!
For example:
Take the first 3 posts after the op asked his question.

One plain ridicules the op w/o offering anything that adds to the discussion, the op could have been thinking a stage bottle uses a 3rd (1st stage)! We just don't know, there's a reason why he's asking.

Another offers plain and simple good info, but somehow this info is somewhat shady or of less value because it came off the internet? One can't possibly learn anything from the internet right?

Then people assume the op is not thinking about taking a class and wants to jump right into a cave with the info he just got off the internet! Then why post anything? Why come here at all if you can't post a simple question. Just go take a class. This is a discussion board the last time I checked!

Why not ask the op and find out what he's thinking rather than assume he can't have his own BS filter instead of the self-appointed scuba-police!

Wiz