Does Nitrox make you feel better? (split from Nitrox on OW course)

[Tigerman]

Apparently you have not dove nitrox...

Bull****.
Not everyone feel any difference with nitrox, me included.

 

[Tigerman]

Just because something has not been "Proven" does not mean it does not work.

I can tell you personally i know for a fact, and we are not talking a Pacebo effect.. that i have done dives i have done many times over and when do the same dives on a higher 02 mix i clearly feel better.

I mean if you have something to disprove how i and many others feel. By all means post it and i will give it a read.

You wont know the difference between placebo and a real effect, that is what placebo is all about and it dont MATTER if its placebo. Who cares as long as its working?
It dont for me, but that dont mean I claim it wont for you..

 

[Michael_Lambert]

Bull****.
Not everyone feel any difference with nitrox, me included.

Easy Tiger

many also claim to dive to 150 feet and not feel narced Just because you don't feel it does not mean it's not working

 

[idocsteve]

Just because something has not been "Proven" does not mean it does not work.

I can tell you personally i know for a fact, and we are not talking a Pacebo effect.. that i have done dives i have done many times over and when do the same dives on a higher 02 mix i clearly feel better.

I mean if you have something to disprove how i and many others feel. By all means post it and i will give it a read.

I am basing my posts on published theories and studies.

The only way you can possibly use your own experiences as a reliable source is to do a double blind study, and I suggest you give it a try.

Have a dive buddy fill two tanks, one with air and one with a high percentage Nitrox blend, give them to you labelled in some way that only he knows what they are. Do 2 dives at a safe depth for the maximum blend, and record the way you feel with each unknown tank.

Do this perhaps a half dozen times and then compare your results with the actual known blends and then report back to this thread.

Only then will your "own personal feelings" actually mean something.

Just "knowing" that you are diving with a higher level of oxygen can "make you feel better", and this, my friend is the entire basis for the placebo effect, which has been proven countless times.

 

[walke121]

You're wrong. Again.

From your posts, that seems to be a habit with you.

Why do you always feel the need to attack everyone. You are the most hard headed person I have ever seen on this board. You have less than 200 dives and one would think from your posts that you invented SCUBA. I love how you try to explain things in "kiddie" language to divers that clearly have more experience and training than you do. Your posts seem to just inflame a simple discussion into a full blown argument. You are always trolling for an argument and frankly it is getting really old. Divers with attitudes like yours end up with no dive buddies. Lets be honest we both know you haven't exactly made friends on this board. Don't ruin the experience for everyone else. Either change or go somewhere else.

 

[walke121]

Bull****.
Not everyone feel any difference with nitrox, me included.

Chill out...

 

[idocsteve]

You wont know the difference between placebo and a real effect, that is what placebo is all about and it dont MATTER if its placebo. Who cares as long as its working?
It dont for me, but that dont mean I claim it wont for you..

True.

On all points.

- He wouldnt know the placebo from the real thing
- That is what the placebo effect is all about
- If it works, so what?
- The placebo effect may work for some and not others

 

[Tigerman]

Easy Tiger

many also claim to dive to 150 feet and not feel narced Just because you don't feel it does not mean it's not working

As far as feeling better, if you dont feel it then its definetly not workin..

 

[Michael_Lambert]

You wont know the difference between placebo and a real effect, that is what placebo is all about and it dont MATTER if its placebo. Who cares as long as its working?
It dont for me, but that dont mean I claim it wont for you..

Right,

But in this case, When i do the same dive 100 times in my doubles and stages on air and then fall asleep in my soup during our after dive debriefing... but then up my mix due to my unlimited supply of nitrox now and do the same dive over and over again now watching my team fall asleep in my soup... then something is up.

Then do the same dive and get out pissed cause your tanks are marked 32% but your dead tired.. thinking you have over come the O2 powers then come to relies... opps i filled them with air and forgot to remove my MOD sticker...

 

[idocsteve]

I've already proven you wrong on this thread, don't force me to make more of a fool out of you than you have already made yourself out to be, if that's at all possible.

Your posts seem to just inflame a simple discussion into a full blown argument. You are always trolling for an argument and frankly it is getting really old.

^^ This post by someone who has already inflammed a respected poster on this board to the point that he has already had an expletive directed at him.

Bull****.
Not everyone feel any difference with nitrox, me included.

Chill out...