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I haven't seen this when I've searched for it and am "locked out" of the going pro section so here goes. My 3 kids (15, 14, 12) are all OW and will be getting AOW and then Rescue this year. I would love for them to have a year (or 2) off between high school and college to go off and explore the world before all of the dreaded adult responsibilities start. We have all agreed that a diving career would be a perfect way to do something fun, see the world, and earn a bit of money along the way. So here's my question....will they have more employment opportunities as Dive Masters or as Instructors? Thanks for any input:D
 
In the end they will have more employment opportunities as an instructor vs. DM. Most working DM's I've seen were instructors functioning as DM's. DM is a prerequisite for any instructor rating. But for PADI DM, they need to be at least 18 years old. So get them through Rescue, CPR/First Aid, and a few more dives. When they are done with school, they have 'zero to hero' programs that will take them through DM to Instructor in a relatively short time. Then they can start to travel and work.
 
I haven't seen this when I've searched for it and am "locked out" of the going pro section so here goes. My 3 kids (15, 14, 12) are all OW and will be getting AOW and then Rescue this year. I would love for them to have a year (or 2) off between high school and college to go off and explore the world before all of the dreaded adult responsibilities start. We have all agreed that a diving career would be a perfect way to do something fun, see the world, and earn a bit of money along the way. So here's my question....will they have more employment opportunities as Dive Masters or as Instructors? Thanks for any input:D

The MOST having both!!!
 
This has all kinds of really great diving opportunities and they will make a dam good living and have the majority of their expenses taken care of, great healthcare, and lots of travel for free:
Navy.mil the Official Web Site of the United States Navy

And they will have the gratitude and respect of most of the free world and even better college can get paid for.
 
There certainly isn't anything the matter with Jim's suggestion, but if they are interested in diving, I'm not sure about the chances of this. I became a Navy diver out of high school and ended-up going to university at the Navy's expense. You can't be too sure about recruiters, so this may not be the way to go, but it may be worth exploring the possibility.

If they become instructors they have a better shot of securing something. DMs often get the short end of the stick. I wish them luck in their journey.

Wayne
 
From what I hear there's very little $ as a DM. You can make a living is some places as an instructor. Some can get by as a DM if in a good location. From my limited experience it would seem there is a lot more work (classroom, etc.) as an instructor. As a former teacher, I look forward to being the DM assistant helping new divers as opposed to being the "head honcho". But I guess it depends on where one's interests lie.
 
Gotta be a DM first but need to be an Instructor to be able and work anywhere.
 
In most destination type places I have been, Instructors were hired over divemasters almost invariably as an Instructor can (and quite a few prefer to) do the job of a Divemaster, but not the other way around. On the liveaboards I worked, the DM certified crew were EXCLUSIVELY local talent with tons of experience, while the expatriate crew were ALWAYS Instructors (with one exception of a Captain wo trained as a DM after getting the Captain job :D )

If they want to travel then the opportunities break down like this: you can volunteer as a DM in many places, but in order to make your vacation 'break even' you will almost invariably be required to sell/teach. As AMERICANS (rather than local Caribbean, Thai, Mexican, etc nationals) working abroad, the number of PAID DM positions will be VERY limited. Most places treat expat DM's as interns who are just learning the ropes on the road to becoming Instructors.

The "locals", however, are quite often considered serious as DM's. In my humble estimation that has much to do with the often "considerable" expense to becoming an instructor: When their father made less than 2$ a day, and now as a DM the Diveshop pays 20$ a day that is great money. Quite often they can earn their way through the DM program fees through schlepping tanks and scrubbing boats, but the PADI fees for the instructor exam are like 400$, the books another 400$... and you have to have a Course Director and/or IDC involved; all hard currency expenses that serve as a massive impediment to these 20$/day employees who are sending 18$/day home to support their (extended) families.

So basically, locals CAN make decent $$$ as DM's when the $$$ earned is in context of local economic conditions. If you are wanting to travel, live and dive, Instructor is really the ONLY option for expatriates to tour the destinations and have a social life, live in somewhat acceptable conditions and break even financially.
 
The most valuable asset they can have is languages.

Even as an instructor, you're gonna find it very difficult to get work unless you're either incredibly good looking and great at pulling in customers, or you can speak at least two languages.

And there are an awful lot of Europeans travelling the globe that have 2, 3 or four languages under their belt that will generally get the nod above you.

It seems the amount of instructors coming through now is greater than ever, competition is tough.
 
Thank you everybody for the advice so far :D We had also thought about the whole 2nd language issue, too. French or German came to mind as good ones to know. Any others or might one be "in demand" more than the other?
 

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