How good is this End All Beat All reg package from Scubatoys?

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Here are my thoughts:

Will you ever dive cold water? If so, buy a cold water reg now. The price difference between a cold water (environmentally sealed) unit and a warm water unit is $100-$150. Sometimes you can buy an upgrade kit later. Same goes for the octo.

Personally I don't see the point to a console computer which is not air-integrated. I would either go for an air-integrated console computer, or a wrist-mount computer. In reality, I have both and dive both.

Retractor clip - I don't want to sound DIR, but I don't think that these are necessary. I tuck my console into my shoulder strap when diving.

BDC hanger - good stuff.

That is one very large BC! Personally I am not a fan of integrated weights and prefer to have a weight belt. The very large size of the BC will make it difficult to travel with - are the majority of your dives going to be within driving distance? Would you consider a smaller BC or plate and wing so that, on those instances when you do fly to a dive spot, you don't have to rely on rented gear?

Everything else is, well, fluff. Make your decision based upon what will keep you alive in the water: regs, BC, and computer.
 
I can tell you that the Oceanic Veo 100 Nx computer runs about $350.00 alone.
Bundle that with a BCD and regs and I think you might have the makings of a fair package.
 
Everything below the regs is junk. For 20 bucks you can get a far better hanger. I just bought a veo 100NX almost nib for 80 bucks. For 800 you can get stuff close to new that may more suit you needs or tastes or you can buy it. I like weight belts too. Integration makes everything far heavier than it needs to be.
 
The veo100nx is a very basic computer that while is nitrox compatible is missing a few features (llike an audible warning) that you may end up wishing you had. Almost my entire setup is from aeris and they make good stuff IMO. My reg is the at400 sport tho.
 
Don't say to much mine is for sale.
 
I don't know anything about those particular brands. But I think there are two schools of thought on dive gear. Buy a setup that will do the job, don't spend too much money and then see how it goes. Later on, upgrade to better stuff.

The second approach is to get the last gear you will ever want the first time. But this can be a huge investment and diving may not be all that interesting.

I tend to think that most 'packages' are set up for warm water divers. For example, integrated weights don't seem practical to me for cold water diving. Yes, I know it is done every day but that's a ton of weight to add to a BC that is already quite heavy when the tank is attached. I don't want to lift that much weight due to old age and a trashed lower back. So, I use a weight harness for the 18# I carry.

If I have to wear something to carry a tank, it might as well be negative so that I don't have to add a little extra weight just to sink the BC. Instead, a 6# BP/W will weigh about the same on my back but reduce my weight belt by 6#.

So a lot of the decision process on equipment is based on where you plan to dive, what kind of diving you plan to do and whether you think you will be diving for a long time.

But all of this stuff is personal and what I want to use has nothing to do with what may be workable for you.

Richard
 
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Here are my thoughts:

Will you ever dive cold water? If so, buy a cold water reg now. The price difference between a cold water (environmentally sealed) unit and a warm water unit is $100-$150. Sometimes you can buy an upgrade kit later. Same goes for the octo.

Personally I don't see the point to a console computer which is not air-integrated. I would either go for an air-integrated console computer, or a wrist-mount computer. In reality, I have both and dive both.

Retractor clip - I don't want to sound DIR, but I don't think that these are necessary. I tuck my console into my shoulder strap when diving.

BDC hanger - good stuff.

That is one very large BC! Personally I am not a fan of integrated weights and prefer to have a weight belt. The very large size of the BC will make it difficult to travel with - are the majority of your dives going to be within driving distance? Would you consider a smaller BC or plate and wing so that, on those instances when you do fly to a dive spot, you don't have to rely on rented gear?

Everything else is, well, fluff. Make your decision based upon what will keep you alive in the water: regs, BC, and computer.

I doubt I will dive cold water. I'm in TX and even in winter I don't think that qualifies. Prob mostly carribean reefs etc.

Why is this console / computer not air integrated? Sorry I'm a noob.

Yes I will be traveling for most all my diving. So smaller makes sense.

What us a good mid level BP/W?

Thanks to all for the info. If these ?'s have been answered elsewhere please link the thread. I've been searching and reading and learning lots.
So I thought this was decent gear. Still more to learn I guess.
 
The AT400/Ion is environmentally sealed, so it's ok for cold water. At least the first stage is ok. My buddy has one and he says it's light and a sweet breather. The Atmos BC is a good BC if you like jacket-style BCs. An air-integrated computer is nice, but not necessary. You probably can't beat this price at a LDS, but you should at least try before you buy. LDSs can give you great feedback and advice on your purchase and contrary to popular belief they are not all out to separate you from your money as so many on here allege.
 
I doubt I will dive cold water. I'm in TX and even in winter I don't think that qualifies. Prob mostly carribean reefs etc.

Why is this console / computer not air integrated? Sorry I'm a noob.

Yes I will be traveling for most all my diving. So smaller makes sense.

What us a good mid level BP/W?

Thanks to all for the info. If these ?'s have been answered elsewhere please link the thread. I've been searching and reading and learning lots.
So I thought this was decent gear. Still more to learn I guess.

Definitely go AI (air integrated). This means the computer itself is reading what's going on with the tank rather than just a pressure gauge. Most will give up to the second calculations based on your breathing rate, depth, etc. Takes a lot of the math out of it and will maximize your dives, even though most computers are conservative.

Personally, I used a jacket style BCD for a bit before going to the BP/W. If I were to dive wet again, I'd probably still use the jacket. It really is simple to have pockets and such but with a drysuit, I like having more space for air expansion. However, the travel point does change things in decision making. If you really wanna go light, get an aluminum plate and you'll just use more of the dive operator's weights. I have an aluminum Hammerhead (brand) plate and a Dive Rite steel. Functionally, not much difference to me. Personally, the wing and harness is where to focus. I like currently just have 2" webbing old school style, so to speak. I'm gonna pick up either a deluxe harness with a quick release or an OMS IQ harness next week. As for the wing, I have a 30 lb Oxycheq wing with a STA and it's plenty of lift, especially diving dry.
 
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