How long did you wait before you started Solo Diving?

[MXGratefulDiver]

there are small island all over the earth that the fishermen use home made "Hookas" and dive for all manner of sea food and they have never had any training for diving and are quite solo in there diving.....they are not from the USA

... be interesting to see what the injury statistics are like on those islands ... and how many of those people are still diving by the time they're 30 ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[scuba=dude]

Well you put it these way there's enuong that it still pays (so i can assume that then numbers are higher favor of solo)
It realy comes down to how many buy into the party hard line about solo diving. All the card-sellers say "Neved solo" then the true belivers don't solo. Yet buddy divers die more then solo divers.

 

[DevonDiver]

I for one only come to these froums that have a "solo" bord so as to get more info about how other SOLO divers are doing there dives......NOT to get told how it's not safe or how it is not this or that.

I think we all understand that different people come to the forum for different reasons. Some to get advice, some to give advice. Some to share experiences. etc etc

In doing so, it is important to consider which individual threads are of interest to us. This particular thread is a discussion of how relative experience amongst solo divers. The thread title gives a hint of this...

It would be wise to consider that nothing in the thread title alludes to "how other SOLO divers are doing there dives....". So, I am surprised you decided to open and input onto this thread, if you have no interest in it.

Not one thred can I find of SB that any one is saying How They Dive, rather that they dive solo.

You do understand that you have to the right to start your own thread/s?

If there are no threads that match your interests, then it is the usual procedure to open one that does....

 

[DevonDiver]

Well you put it these way there's enuong that it still pays (so i can assume that then numbers are higher favor of solo)
It realy comes down to how many buy into the party hard line about solo diving. All the card-sellers say "Neved solo" then the true belivers don't solo.

SPELLCHECK....... dude, please!

Yet buddy divers die more then solo divers.

Are you really too dense to understand that statistics have to be viewed in context?

Which is the most significant statistic?

Divers complete two million 'buddy dives' a year and 10 people die...
OR
Divers complete two thousand 'solo dives' a year and 8 people die...

Think about it....... tick tock...... tick tock........tick tock.......

 

[Fish-R-Man]

I think that it would be interesting to see how many of the divers that checked 0-24 dives before they soloed are divers who have been diving for 30 years or so. Most of the guys I know that were certified in the 70's have no problems with diving solo. It seems to me that divers with just a few dives or years diving are the most vocal about the dangers of diving solo. It just wasn't an issue when I started.

As far as these guys diving Hookah rigs. I taught my older brother how to scuba dive. He lived in Santa Barbara, Cal going to UCSB then. He found a job for a guy as a tender diving abalone. Before long he was diving during this guys surface intervals. He didn't get certified until about 15 years later when the LDS he used wouldn't fill the bottles he needed when he was doing surveys with a scooter. He took a two day course in Cabo at a resort to get the card. He in turn taught my younger brother. He never did get certified. He dove for a little of twenty years also. All of their diving was solo. If you look at my profile you will see a large gap between certs. In those years if I wanted to dive, I just went with my brothers, or I had my original C-card from the YMCA.
I took an OW and AOW with my new wife to get her involved in the sport. She hasn't gone solo and probably never will. She is happy just drifting along looking at the pretty fish.... I was amazed at the difference in the class structure from my original class in the early seventies to the current ones. The guys I took my AOW class were LA County Lifeguards. They were tough. The things they did to us then would probably get you sued today, but I think it made us better divers. There were a couple of students in my wifes classes that IMHO should not have passed. None of them should have attempted solo.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

I was amazed at the difference in the class structure from my original class in the early seventies to the current ones.

Therein lies the crux of the issue.

At all levels of diving, if you take a close look at accident statistics you will find something in common ... a significant reason for dive accidents is diving beyond your level of training.

OW training today ... no matter how good the instructor might be ... doesn't prepare you to dive solo. Those who choose to ignore that reality are just jumping in the water and hoping for the best.

I wish them luck ... I don't think it's a good idea, or in ScubaBoard's best interest, to promote "luck" as an acceptable training alternative.

Giving people tips on how to dive solo straight out of OW is about as stupid as giving people tips on how to cave dive without cave training ... and people have been kicked off of ScubaBoard in the past for doing that ... for good reason.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[scuba=dude]

SPELLCHECK....... dude, please!



Are you really too dense to understand that statistics have to be viewed in context?

Which is the most significant statistic?

Divers complete two million 'buddy dives' a year and 10 people die...
OR
Divers complete two thousand 'solo dives' a year and 8 people die...

Think about it....... tick tock...... tick tock........tick tock.......

People that resort to insults never really get there point across.....where you able to understand that?

 

[DevonDiver]

People that resort to insults never really get there point across.....where you able to understand that?

Great spelling!

In seriousness... I'll moderate my humor if you aren't getting it.

 

[scuba=dude]

to be rude and underhanded in the name of humor is still rude and underhanded or maybe it's just a British thing?

 

[Thalassamania]

It's a Brit thing ... Keep on the sunnyside, always on the sunny side ...