Essential training for Public Safety?

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KD8NPB

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Our local guys have gone through:
PADI OW
PADI AOW
PADI Rescue

They will be going through PADI Drysuit soon. There is a possibility we may be getting a guy in later for PADI Public Safety.

Is there any other training anyone would consider essential for Public Safety divers?

Does the HAZWOPR stuff carry over to drysuit decontamination as well? I'd like to be sure they know how to properly decon after exposure to marine & automotive hazards, as well as the fact that Southwest Michigan was littered with polluting paper mills for a very long time.

Maybe Peak Performance Buoyancy with a huge emphasis on silt mitigation?
 
ERDI, an internationally recognized full-on agency... it's not a specialty course but a whole curriculum designed by PSD for PSD, including FFM, Contaminated Water, Line Tender, and various ops such as evidence recovery, fast water and ice rescue and so on. Their philosophy being that nothing in OW sport training prepares someone for PSD... not in terms of skills, mindset and kit.

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I have very little PSD knowledge or experience but what little I do have informs me that finely-tuned buoyancy control has very little impact in the conditions these folk dive in... and therefore, they are trained to deal with zero vis and entanglement.
 
Erdi, dri, PADI psd and life guard systems all have good classes. Anything would be helpful. Just keep getting the guys trained and in the water
 
The ERDI program is real public safety diving. They are one of the few training agencies that really teach PSD diving as different than OW. go look at www.tdisdi.com and click the ERDI links. These are the guys that train agencies like Miami and NYC.
 
Hey KD8NPB, As a Public Safety Diving Instructor and Underwater Criminal Investigator Instructor for 3 training agencies, and Dive Team Leader for 3 different Departments, I will say this, get as much training as possible (budget permitting). Even after all your guys are certified in the specialty areas that your team decides is necessary, I would put forth the effort to train at least 1 time if not more a month, and mock scenarios will help tremendously. I'm in the unique position because the answer to your question is different for each of the departments I dive for and train. Reason being is the budget (volunteer agencies). Base line training of course being Open Water, Advanced, and Rescue. Specialties that I push for for my guys is Drysuit, Full Face Mask, Navigation, Search and Recovery, Public Safety, Underwater Criminal Investigation, Night or Limited Vis, Drift (if in the area of flood or strong current), and of course drill training and response training. Having the right mind set for Public Safety Diving is a must. Without the understanding that Public Safety Diving is not fun recreational diving, then the training is useless. Some training agencies do have great programs, and then some are tailored to hey look at the certification I just got. As far as the different specialties, most agencies are consistent with the next. All instructors will say take this course or that depending on what they teach. I would check your local area and see what options are available. Then check neighboring departments and see what training they are getting. Getting training that is tailored to your needs is ideal, though there does need to be a base line for all teams. The same applies to FEMA training for the nation. A universal system for all departments is ideal but each department has it's own needs depending on their location. With all that being said, training only really helps if you put it to use. So run the mock scenarios as much as possible. Have a practice mission planned and then throw a wrench into it to see how your team would react. Example: We will run a drowning scenario, then turn it into a trapped diver scenario with the family (fake family) screaming at our guys why are you not helping, to see how our guys react. We let our guys know up front things could change but we don't tell them what it may be. When we set training days for one of our departments, the training is set no matter the weather. Its not like you can tell the person on the other line, sorry its raining we will come back tomorrow. So don't be afraid to get out there and practice. Also don't forget your service support (tenders), having training for them is just as important. They are the direct contact for the divers and command. Hope this helps.
 
You might want to contact Wazee Sports Center in Black River Falls, WI.


Keith puts on excellent ERDI courses, and is very mobile and able to travel to conduct courses.
 
The ERDI program is real public safety diving. They are one of the few training agencies that really teach PSD diving as different than OW. go look at www.tdisdi.com and click the ERDI links. These are the guys that train agencies like Miami and NYC.

NYC does their own training not through ERDI.
 
We use Dive Rescue International and send our divers through their Dive Rescue I course. It gives the basics on being a PSD. This course is not a recreational dive type course. We've hosted this very course three time over the past twelve years and I'm impressed how they keep it current. I, personally, have attended several PSD courses by different training agencies/companies. Each offer good information.
 
NYC does their own training not through ERDI.
sorry.....I meant New York State
 
No worries. It's a pet peeve of mine when dive shops train someone who happens to be in FDNY or NYPD and they go around stating they have trained FDNY or NYPD.

I'm not saying that's what you did there and I'm not trying to be rude.
 
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