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I'm surprised you don't check your facts a little more carefully before making these comments Bob. The SDI solo course book used the word recommends in the same context. You clearly have not read the book properly.

... you linked the presentation, which clearly does NOT say that, even though you claim that it did.

Express your opinions all you like ... that's what internet forums are for ... but you shouldn't attempt to state them as facts.

Once again, you're taking statements out of a course book that was created for recreational, non-overhead diving and attempting to use it to rationalize why no one should dive that way. If you don't comprehend what's wrong with that then I'll agree that you shouldn't ... because you don't have adequate understanding of what's being said to apply it in the correct context.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
Worth noting here that SDI does NOT SANCTION solo diving in overhead environments (either hard overheads such as caves and wrecks; or the soft overhead of a staged decompression obligation). This is one reason
we offer this particular course through our sport diving agency SDI rather than through Technical Diving International... our tech diving sister agency

That parallels the statements provided in the SDI solo diving course book. "Does not sanction" and "does not recommend" are used to indicate the same thing. Note the additional explanation that this is the reason TDI do not offer the solo diving course.

So your research was sloppy and you have misrepresented the facts.
 
Blah blah blah. I will continue to dive solo when it makes sense. And that will include overhead sometimes.


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That parallels the statements provided in the SDI solo diving course book. "Does not sanction" and "does not recommend" are used to indicate the same thing. Note the additional explanation that this is the reason TDI do not offer the solo diving course.

So your research was sloppy and you have misrepresented the facts.

I'm guessing that you think you are winning big points among the veteran ScubaBoard users with posts like this. If so, I am going to go beyond a guess and assure you that you are wrong.
 
I'm guessing that you think you are winning big points among the veteran ScubaBoard users with posts like this. If so, I am going to go beyond a guess and assure you that you are wrong.

I consider misrepresenting the position an instruction agency takes on a topic such as this to be a serious failing. I'd put it up there with encouraging divers to go beyond the limits of their training. How about you John?
 
... it's like trying to explain physics to a five year old ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
Here is another perspective on the question of solo diving in an overhead environment. The person is well qualified and experienced and clearly thinks it is okay.

You should be comfortable in a cave by yourself and you should know what kind of a diver you are. Are you aggressive or more conservative when you are alone? Does your trim suffer if no one is watching? Have you got the presence of mind to fix problems that arise? Can you plan a dive and execute it without someone watching over you? Have you got cave awareness or will you get lost as soon as your eye drifts away from the line?

The main argument to support the theory that buddy diving is superior to solo diving is that ‘two brains are better than one.’ No matter how much redundant equipment you have, the theory goes, at the end of the day you only have one brain so it is nice to have a backup. This theory suggests that somehow two people working together to solve a problem will mean that it is more likely to be resolved, for example two people lost in a cave are more likely to get out after communicating about their predicament.

I would argue that it is precisely this redundant brain that is likely to be the source of potential problems to begin with. You can control a lot about your diving; you can control yourself, your gear, your route and how far inside a cave you will venture. Yet you cannot control what goes on in your buddies brain. What another person is thinking or feeling at any one time is often a mystery. Are they pushing themselves to be there? Are they happy and focused on the dive or have they had a bad day at work and they’re feeling suicidal or homicidal for that matter? Humans in general aren’t exactly real good at communicating. Our two lost mates from the example above probably got themselves in the ‘crap! where’s the exit?!’ predicament because of a lack of communication in the first place... ‘I thought you were keeping track of where we are?’ ‘No, I thought you were - you where the one leading!’ Surely the double fatalities that occur would prove that a redundant brain can’t solve all problems.

There are times when solo diving in my opinion is clearly a good option, in tight silty passages for example, a buddy would hinder rather than help. Doing it solo is often more effective, but of course, just like with the real S word, it can be more fun with a buddy. If you can find a buddy who has a similar breathing rate, a similar pace, similar goals and interests inside the caves and they have as much interest in your satisfaction and pleasure as their own, then you are indeed more likely to have more fun and a good time. Yet anyone can tell you that finding a perfect match is no easy feat.


Lets talk about? the S word.
 
Here is another perspective on the question of solo diving in an overhead environment. The person is well qualified and experienced and clearly thinks it is okay.
Lets talk about? the S word.

The difference is her audience. She's talking to people that have Overhead Training. The audience you talk to is CRUCIAL in understanding authorial intent. If I try to explain physics to a five year old in a way they could understand it, people would say I'm being sweet. If I explained it to you in the same way, I'd be condescending.

The SDI Solo course is aimed at RECREATIONAL divers. That article is aimed at TECHNICAL divers. There's a huge difference. Having said that, it's a great read.
 
The difference is her audience. She's talking to people that have Overhead Training. The audience you talk to is CRUCIAL in understanding authorial intent. If I try to explain physics to a five year old in a way they could understand it, people would say I'm being sweet. If I explained it to you in the same way, I'd be condescending.

The SDI Solo course is aimed at RECREATIONAL divers. That article is aimed at TECHNICAL divers. There's a huge difference. Having said that, it's a great read.

If you read the quotations from Steve Lewis speaking on behalf of both SDI and TDI and the literature published by SDI the position is unchanged for both recreational and technical divers. They do not recommend, among other things, trained divers diving solo in overhead environments.

Regarding the article, your comments would be more convincing if the author was speaking on behalf of the cave diving association in Australia, but clearly she is not. They were her own opinions. If the cave diving association came out and said they sanctioned trained members solo diving in caves then I think you may have a point. But if the cave diving association stated that they do not recommend their members diving solo your argument falls in a heap.

There is one other slant on this that you may be intending to express which is that the instruction agencies we've mentioned are telling their members or trainees that they are neutral on the issue of them diving solo in an overhead environment, but to the public they are stating that they have a strong position that they do not sanction (or recommend) solo diving in an overhead environment. That seems to me a rather cynical position. At this stage I don't see any documented evidence that would lead me to question the integrity of the agencies in that way. They may allow divers the freedom to ignore their recommendations but that is different.
 
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