PLEASE help me prove i wasn't narked

[Steve_C]

Add the fact that the angelfish will hybridize and you get really wide variations.

We know you were trying to get a fish ID. However you posed it as to prove you were not narced and at that depth you certainly were to some degree.

 

[g1138]

Was this your fish?
Keep in mind @ 50m regardless of clear sunshine you will not see orange at all.
Is the body shape right at least?

Conspicuous Angelfish - Chaetodontoplus conspicillatus

 

[Dive Right In Scuba 2]

You posted like being narced is a bad thing. I rather enjoy playing cards with conger eels and talking about the latest episode of The Walking Dead with the friendly Sand Tiger Shark!

 

[Jax]

Was this your fish?
Keep in mind @ 50m regardless of clear sunshine you will not see orange at all.
Is the body shape right at least?

Conspicuous Angelfish - Chaetodontoplus conspicillatus
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Is this the right Pic?

 

[boulderjohn]

sorry mon the point they were making is that the fish diddn't exist and justified it by suggesting I was seeing things

OK, and I said that we can only hope to help you by proving that such a fish exists, and I further said that will not change the fact that you were narked. What is your point?

What I said is similar to an old saying: "Just because you are paranoid does not mean people are not out to get you."

 

[g1138]

Fixed, I think. Thanks Jax. Yeah that's the one I was trying to link.

 

[Frosty]

Oi, you're killing me smalls!

College Ichthyology did not teach me fish ID from a laymen's description. xD
Angelfish will morph their body shape as they grow in age. Their color patterns will too. Some species, their Juveniles are brightly colored and will taper to their adult color as they grow. So keep in mind that one stock photo image of your actual species may be very different from the individual you saw.

But to strike out one option, it's not a Queen Angel, those are Atlantic only.
So I'm assuming it had no stripes, no different coloration on the face. Just all sepia with black borders and blue LED's broken around it's outline?
Is that the correct description you saw?

Was the size bigger or smaller than your fist?

Hey im genuinely sorry. Not trying to make life difficult -truth is ive never seen a fish quite like it and it was enough to grab my attention.
I'll try again with description
Size wise -side on was 200x200 or 8 inches x 8 inches.
By saying it was cepia I was trying to make the point that it was kind of like a black and white picture of an angel fish but in shades of brown rather than grey
I diddn't notice different coloration on the face.
The shape was classic angel fish -as in like the much smaller ones. so the top and bottom "fin" extended back past the tail.
The part that stood out was what what looked like blue LED's broken around it's outline.

 

[diversteve]

But to strike out one option, it's not a Queen Angel, those are Atlantic only.

Queen angelfish, Holacanthus ciliaris, are tropical fish found in coral reefs in the western Pacific Ocean, the Indian Ocean, and the Atlantic Ocean as far south as Brazil. They do not migrate, and they are commonly spotted near the Bahamas and Florida. (Pauly and Froese, 2010)

 

[g1138]

Hey im genuinely sorry. Not trying to make life difficult -truth is ive never seen a fish quite like it and it was enough to grab my attention.
I'll try again with description
Size wise -side on was 200x200 or 8 inches x 8 inches.
By saying it was cepia I was trying to make the point that it was kind of like a black and white picture of an angel fish but in shades of brown rather than grey
I diddn't notice different coloration on the face.
The shape was classic angel fish -as in like the much smaller ones. so the top and bottom "fin" extended back past the tail.
The part that stood out was what what looked like blue LED's broken around it's outline.

Oh I'm more amused and not the least bit annoyed. I like a challenge.
I work at an aquarium and Fish ID questions usually go like this. People don't realize that all these small little details do help a lot in ID and I don't blame them for not knowing. You don't really realize it until you study them.
I'll take another whack at it when I get back from work.

Queen angelfish, Holacanthus ciliaris, are tropical fish found in coral reefs in the western Pacific Ocean, the Indian Ocean, and the Atlantic Ocean as far south as Brazil. They do not migrate, and they are commonly spotted near the Bahamas and Florida. (Pauly and Froese, 2010)

I did miss that. Interestingly though Pauly & Froese Fishbase update 2014 doesn't list that, but it's Suitable Habitat map displays West Indies. Native Range is solely Atlantic.
Every web reference I found that said different is that exact quote you posted, from 2010. Which strikes me as odd.

I'm curious if Home Aquaria release is responsible or not. I couldn't find anything right quick, yet another fun thing to do when I get back home.
Holacanthus ciliaris, Queen angelfish : fisheries, aquarium

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Well I lied, one more quick try:
Blue Angel - Pomacanthus semicirculatus
Am I getting the right body type at least?

 

[shoredivr]

Not sure how many home aquaria there are in Vanuatu.....

Thanks for for fish education!