New way of securing inflator hose

[dumpsterDiver]

I found the discussion interesting. Since I never get to dive with "real" divers or have taken any technical courses, I learn stuff from the internet. I too have had an issue with being constrained from lifting the inflator as much as I like, and I never use the butt dump.. It was something that bugged me. The idea of just running the LP inflator hose through the rubber loop is something so ridiculously simple, that it is embarrassing that I never thought of it. I haven't used the BP/W in a couple years, but next time.. I will try it like that, maybe show my kid the trick.. he uses a BP/W

 

[Kevrumbo]

The d-ring is held in place by a triglide. The bungie is passed under the loop of harness that is created by passing it up through one slot of the triglide, and back down through the other one. It is tied in a knot (I use a simple reef knot) and you can pull the knot back under the harness, so it's not visible.

Whether you put the whole assembly through the loop, or just the LP inflator hose, is controversial. I put the whole assembly through, but that does make it possible for the whole thing to come out, which has happened to me once or twice. My husband puts just the inflator hose through, which makes it possible for the bungie to pop the hose off the valve, which has happened a time or two.

Although I haven't tried it, I'm really liking the approach Deep Sea Supply now uses, which is to put a loop of inner tube on the harness above the d-ring, and run the inflator hose through that. It seems as though it would make it easier to lift the inflator, but still hold it very close to the harness. I think I'll set mine up that way, the next time I have to take it apart. (Of course, that may be a couple of years from now, when all my spare inner tube pieces have finally broken . . . )

I found the discussion interesting. Since I never get to dive with "real" divers or have taken any technical courses, I learn stuff from the internet. I too have had an issue with being constrained from lifting the inflator as much as I like, and I never use the butt dump.. It was something that bugged me. The idea of just running the LP inflator hose through the rubber loop is something so ridiculously simple, that it is embarrassing that I never thought of it. I haven't used the BP/W in a couple years, but next time.. I will try it like that, maybe show my kid the trick.. he uses a BP/W

Seriously, as a "real" wreck diver, you will be using your inflator hose to dump air as needed, sometimes as quickly as possible --especially if you're in vertical trim going up/ascending a long hallway/passageway (i.g. like Truk Lagoon inside the huge Heian Maru Sub Tender laying on its Port side); you don't want a fixed piece of bungee attached to a triglide, or a tight inner tube retainer keeping you from quickly extending your inflator hose fully up to dump air. A sliding retainer shock cord loop rather than a fixed one is a better solution.

 

[mrfixitchapman]

My harness has three inner tube bands, (Snoopy Loops) on each side. I use them sort of like daisy chain loops on my back pack. My inflator hose is passed under one of the loops on the left side. If it gets out of position I just slide it back where I want it to be. I have my drysuit inflator hose under one of the loops as well. Keeps the hose from protruding, reduces entanglement hazard and stays where I left it.

My 2psi.

DC

 

[Scared Silly]

It also took me a bit to understand what folks were talking about. Like the two previous posts I have sliding retainer for LP inflator. They are inner tubes. I have three - one for a back up light, one for the LP inflator, and the other for when one breaks. Normally the one keeping the LP hose in place is near the D ring but as Kevrumbo notes if needed it can be moved.

 

[Nemrod]

About twenty or thirty years ago, I took a piece of stiff nylon webbing, about 1.5 inches wide. I had a friend sew a piece of Velcro to it, male and female, on each end. Then it was sewed across to form two loops, one closed and one that could be closed with the Velcro. The closed loop I formed to slide over the harness webbing by folding and heating. The Velcro equipped end can accommodate either just the LP hose (my usual config) or envelope both hoses. I am still using the same piece though it is not very secure anymore what with the Velcro being quite worn out. I secure the LP hose and the corrugated hose to each other with bike inner tube cut from my Cycle Cross bike these days because it is an in between 28-34mm size, between racing 20-24mm and mtb 40-50mm. But, one day I found some nylon/cloth elastic bands in the trash at work, and when I saw them I knew I had to dig them out. Not sure what they were intended for but now they ride on my BC (wing) corrugated hose instead of bike tube.

N

 

[Kevrumbo]

Re-thread your BP webbing and just use one of these:

UTD Shock-Cord Power Inflator Keeper with Retaining Clip · UTD Scuba Diving

(Note: don't run it through fixed in place via the left shoulder D-Ring triglide. Let it slide as needed along the inflator hose assembly and shoulder harness webbing as I described in post #12 above).

Or in a quick save-a-dive situation, get a minimum 4" to 5" length of small diameter/thickness shock cord bungee --and loop it snug around the left shoulder harness webbing (see post #9 above). Secure it with either a square knot or just grab both loose ends together and tie into an overhand knot. . . (Same concept & application for securing dangling back-up lights clipped to shoulder D-rings, instead of using inner tube retainers).

 

[ams511]

Re-thread your BP webbing and just use one of these:

UTD Shock-Cord Power Inflator Keeper with Retaining Clip · UTD Scuba Diving

(Note: don't run it through fixed in place via the left shoulder D-Ring triglide. Let it slide as needed along the inflator hose assembly and shoulder harness webbing as I described in post #12 above).

Or in a quick save-a-dive situation, get a minimum 4" to 5" length of small diameter/thickness shock cord bungee --and loop it snug around the left shoulder harness webbing (see post #9 above). Secure it with either a square knot or just grab both loose ends together and tie into an overhand knot. . . (Same concept & application for securing dangling back-up lights clipped to shoulder D-rings, instead of using inner tube retainers).

That item is $10. Why not just buy a big o-ring from the hardware store and use that if you are going to re-thread the harness.

 

[PfcAJ]

I wouldn't use a sliding retainer. The whole point is to retain it so its where you expect it to be.

 

[decompression]

Agree with AJ, nothing wrong with a cheap piece of bungee or a large O ring on the tri glide.


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[Jim Lapenta]

I have just come up with a new tri glide design that allows you to do this and for those using a conventional reg set to secure an octo holder out of bungee or surgical tubing on the other side without having to go over the dring. Or clip anything to it. It also allows one to add a chest strap if they like. I'll post some pics later. Have them in the tumbler now.