Teaching it Neutral Style... a paradigm shift in Scuba instruction

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I'm a trim/neutral buoyancy snob. I've worked hard and had to overcome a ton of bad habits to get there, but there's nothing like simply floating above the ocean floor without making an adverse impact. It's really not that hard and so I have always wondered why I wasn't introduced to this earlier in my diving career. I've been given a few theories with the most plausible is that the first instructors were clearance divers or taught by the same. They do a lot of their tasks on the bottom, kneeling and standing, so to them it's simply a part of diving. From there it appears to have morphed from a normal part of their diving to a need for control over their students. When I became an NAUI instructor, my IDC stressed that having divers kneeling during their class was important so we didn't lose anyone. To accomplish this, I had to overweight myself and my students in order to be able to stay firmly on the bottom. The more I overweighted them, the easier it was to control them but the harder it was for them to get comfortable while neutral. I felt like I was chasing my tail... mostly because I was.

Then around 2004 I had an epiphany. I needed to make my students comfortable while hovering and figure out how to keep control of them at the same time. That made me overdo the pool sessions for my students. I started them out heavy and gradually got them lightened up through those pool sessions. I found myself having to unteach bad habits they developed while on their knees, but I didn't want to take them to OW until I felt they were comfortable. That meant doing all the skills midwater. Like all the instructors in the Central Florida Area, I taught them skills on their knees first, went to OW, had them repeat their skills on their knees and then we went for a 'tour'. I did the first dives at Alexander Springs, but one day there were simply too many classes. All the sand areas were being used by classes when we got in. But hey, they had mastered their skills midwater as well as kneeling, so I simply did my class over everyone else's class. It was a blast! We had a close call from time to time, but all the OW skills were done while hovering over people's heads. Yeah, I had to explain what I was doing to a couple of my fellow instructors there that day. They were surprised it was an OW class and one felt I had even violated standards. Students had to be uber controlled after all.

The next class was a small one, so I decided to experiment with the unthinkable: no kneeling. Ever. Not even in the pool. To be sure, I was tentative and I ran into an issue right away with mask clearing. But nothing was insurmountable and my students and I had fun re-inventing this wheel. There were a couple of things that surprised me. First, I was able to shorten the number and length of my pool sessions. Second, I stopped having control issues with my students. I have less to worry about, once they are in control of their diving. Third, my students seemed to be more comfortable in the OW environment. It's been over 10 years now trying to teach Scuba neutral style and my class has definitely morphed. For those interested in how I do teach, here is what I do, and it usually takes only two, 3 to 4 hour pool sessions.


  • Swim test. 'Nuff said.
  • Mask Clearing in the kiddie pool. Yeah, we're standing in the kiddie pool, with no scuba and no snorkel. They put on a mask full of water and learn to talk with their mask full. It really works. :D (FWIW, we don't ever use a snorkel on Scuba)
  • Weight titration. On Scuba, hands folded, legs crossed, I add only enough weight to barely get their heads below water.
  • Trim and propulsion. As students learn to submerge, I am swimming with them, adjusting tank & weights, demonstrating the frog kick and teaching how to propel themselves underwater in the Scuba Position (horizontal). Hovering is not a 90 second exercise in this class. It's done the entire class!
  • Teaching the other skills start only after the students become comfortable being neutral. That means, they can start, stop, turn without their hands and adjust their position in the water column using only their breath. Sometimes this takes the entire first session. That's OK. The skills are easy compared to getting comfortable.
  • When the students are really ready, and can perform all required skills (even doff and don scuba unit) while neutral, they are given the final test. They have to descend to the bottom of the pool and then ascend three times, using only their breath. After the third descent, they swim over to a series of two pound weights all in a row. Using only their breath control, they have to start picking up two pound weights, establishing neutral buoyancy between weights. I need to see them handle at least six additional pounds. This sometimes takes a few attempts to master, but until they can do this, they don't have mastery over their buoyancy.
  • We end the pool sessions with a valve off drill and doing horizontal CESAs.
  • Open water sessions are not a repeat of the pool. Dives one and two are shore dives, involve understanding currents, looking under rocks, and a single safe ascent with a safety stop. Dives three and four are off a boat and involve finding critters and more critters. Skills are done in situ while diving rather than in a serial fashion. IOW, I want to see you dive. We'll calculate your SAC together and I'll make sure you can plan subsequent dives.

My goal is not to certify divers, but to teach them how to dive. To alleviate any qualms, I only teach NASE OW classes and I do exceed their standards, which they allow their instructors to do. They don't allow OW CESAs, something which I think is problematic for the students and injures way too many instructors and snorkels are discouraged while on Scuba. To be clear, most agencies don't prohibit this method of instruction. It's up to the instructor to determine just how they teach their students. All too often, I see people blaming agencies for poor divers when they don't teach a one. It's all up to the instructor. They can take great standards and either make them even better, or do the opposite and justify poor trim and buoyancy. Even then, they may not even be 'bad' instructors. They've just bought into the industry myth that having your students kneel gives the instructor more control.
 
Imagine if this was taught to newbie instructors during IDC's...........


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Haven't we had this discussion over and over again - particularly since PADI revised its OW course?

BTW, when Boulderjohn (with some help from the rest of the world!) wrote the article for PADI about teaching "neutral buoyancy style" [aka "An Early Introduction to Neutral Buoyancy"] Sam Miller was asked about the "on the knees" style of teaching. As I recall, the best he (and the rest of us) could come up with was that it derived from the teaching at Scripps -- wet suits (thus "over weighted" when on the bottom); sandy bottom; no such thing as a BCD.

It was the BCD that changed how we dove but the teaching framework was entrenched and didn't change with the "new" gear.
 
Imagine if this was taught to newbie instructors during IDC's...........
It's taught to my ICs. One of my favorite classes to teach is Trim, Buoyancy and Propulsion aka NetDoc's Snobbish amounts of Trim class. It's a remedial class for those who don't feel in control and it consists of a shortened version of my OW class. Show me your instructor card, and I'll teach you the pool session(s) for free. No kidding and I'll guarantee we'll have fun or double your money back! :D The pool here charges $15/day so it's not completely free, but it's close. I'll even donate the air.

Haven't we had this discussion over and over again - particularly since PADI revised its OW course?
Peter, sorry if I'm repeating old stuff here. I have been asked (challenged?) to post how I teach the OW course and it came up in a thread here. Thought I would put it down for others to read, comment and criticize as they see fit. I've never been a PADI instructor, though I know of at least three who are committed to teaching in this manner. Obviously, I don't think it's an agency dependent decision and I hope to inspire a few kneeling instructors to consider a different approach.
 
I am a new diver who got certified about 4 months ago. I was a pretty slow learner in the beginning compared to others in my class; it took me a bit longer to catch on, and grasp everything there was to learn. (Little did I know, there was SO MUCH more than just what I was taught at the time!) I did my checkout dives in a quarry. We did most of the skills on our knees, or standing. My first real dives were in Key Largo a few weeks later. (Holy crap; I could actually SEE things!) And I remember I saw students doing checkout dives. While being neutrally buoyant! At the time, I didn't realize at all what they were up to, and was thinking, "Man, I am so glad I didn't do my checkout dives while I was here; there's no way I could do all of that and stay neutral!" Now, of course, I wish that is how we were taught from the get-go. Luckily, after much practice on buoyancy on my own (after being certified), I can easily do the skills while staying neutral, and feel much better about my diving. I know I'm new, but I do agree with your way of teaching. I think I would have preferred that.
 
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Peter, sorry if I'm repeating old stuff here. I have been asked (challenged?) to post how I teach the OW course and it came up in a thread here. Thought I would put it down for others to read, comment and criticize as they see fit. I've never been a PADI instructor, though I know of at least three who are committed to teaching in this manner. Obviously, I don't think it's an agency dependent decision and I hope to inspire a few kneeling instructors to consider a different approach.

I don't mind the "repeat" as this is great stuff. Thanks for sharing it.

Some day I'm going to make a trip out to see you and take a class :wink:
 
It would be amazing if more folks focused on this. As an industry we have become so concerned with through put how many divers can I certify and how fast can I do it that student divers often completely miss the art of diving. I am a newer instructor but a veteran diver and buoyancy with newly certified divers has long been a pet peeve and one of the reasons why I decided to become an instructor in the first place. Most instructors seem to just go with whats easiest to control and trim their rigs to make them comfortable on their knees which seems silly as we don't dive on our knees and when the divers go out on their own they are left to figure out how to be neutral and how to properly use buoyancy. A paradigm shift is needed in the industry, the fact that when you do your IDC the mentality is you will just teach this way for the IDC not in real life then why are we evaluating on teaching methods your not expected to use. I am still getting my teaching methods refined as I am newer to the instructor side but I like to do my OW skills on the line in mid water. This way everyone can be neutral, have a reference, I can control them easier, and I can control the depth. To top all of my rigs are set up for diving not sitting and really art comfortable to be on my knees with them they are trimmed to be flat on a horizontal plane. This thread is great and the industry as a whole needs to update our teaching to reflect what divers will actually see not just whats easiest to control.
 
Wow, this epiphany sounds very much like a paradigm shift GUE has been teaching since 1999. Did you take part in some of that training? I seem to recall you being a spokesman in the GUE video.
No, I've never taken a GUE class or have adopted DIR. Yes, I was featured in GUE's promotional video a few years ago after a dive with a bunch of DIR divers on the Speigel Grove. I guess you could call me their Strokesperson. :D :D :D FWIW, I don't think they were teaching GUE OW back then. It's my understanding that they and NASE are the only agencies that require neutral buoyancy throughout the checkout dives and not for just a finite amount of time. However, and it should be noted, that no group or agency can claim neutral buoyancy as their invention.
 
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You can add UTD to the list of agencies training folks to be neutral from day 1. :D
 
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