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Okay… First, I know I'm new here. Second, I'm genuinely curious. And third, I read the entire 18-page thread of the "LGBTQ Divers?" question. As a openly gay, married man I would love to have a place to connect with other gay men, women, and like-minded individuals to discuss dive travel opportunities, to find dive buddies without having to worry about whether or not they might have a problem with me, and to feel comfortable talking about things that might impact us.


If possible, I'd like to have a board created under Non-Geographic Clubs called:


LGBTQIA Divers and Their Friends


I have spent the past week-and-a-half searching the internet (and this board) for such clubs, and I was surprised how lacking they were. It's been six years since the original question was posted in the thread referenced above. I know if I'm interested, that there are probably many others who would be too, but they may just be afraid to ask. Many of the responses in the thread above were not very understanding of what it is like living as an LGBTQIA individual in a predominantly heteronormative global society. Having such a space is not about excluding anyone, it's about having space where we don't have to worry about being who we are and can focus on what we love - diving (among many other things).


Thanks!
 
It would be weird to post a question about VPM vs Buhlmann debate in the LGBTQIA thread, for example, unless there was something specifically about decompression models that would affect LGBTQIA differently (I can't, for the life of me, think what that would be right at the moment).


Sooo SB "needs" an LGBTQIA forum, why?
 
And SB "needs" an LGBTQIA forum, why?
Please read through the 22-page discussion to see why. It has been discussed, and many, many reasons have been provided.
 
Sooo SB "needs" an LGBTQIA forum, why?
For you, it does not. This thread has quite thoroughly described a number of reasons why for many, the need exists. I think many have learned from this thread......
 
For some reason every time the OP posts, I support the idea less. Something about the way he comes off.
So your objection to the idea is based on who is proposing it, or how they are doing so? And not on the idea itself??

That seems close to saying X is a dumb idea because person Y is proposing it. We try to not do that type of thing.
 
So your objection to the idea is based on who is proposing it, or how they are doing so? And not on the idea itself??

That seems close to saying X is a dumb idea because person Y is proposing it. We try to not do that type of thing.

I don't object to the idea, per se.

Some recent posts have clarified it's validity.
 
Many SB'ers, myself included, are analytical types, and what I am getting from a number of posts is that it drives us crazy that we are unable to wrap our heads around this by the logical sort of analysis we apply to other problems. I accept that there is no logic to it. Paradoxically, "diversity" nowadays often appears to mean a group of sub-groups. Maybe it's natural that people want to divide themselves into sub-groups? Maybe we will see an increasing demand for sub-forums? As I said many posts ago, it seems almost inherent that we "straight white males" or whatever are unable to see the issues the way those who perceive a need for a sexual orientation-based, gender-based, or even race-based sub-forum apparently do. I have never seen a "stink eye" given to a diver, but that is probably because I am oblivious. I would think travel advice could be sought on a general travel forum, as the same issues would arise whether the travel is scuba-related or not. I think we who cannot understand need to give up the logical analysis and just accept that we will never understand. I'm not going to let it bother me that I cannot understand.
 
Many SB'ers, myself included, are analytical types, and what I am getting from a number of posts is that it drives us crazy that we are unable to wrap our heads around this by the logical sort of analysis we apply to other problems. I accept that there is no logic to it. Paradoxically, "diversity" nowadays often appears to mean a group of sub-groups. Maybe it's natural that people want to divide themselves into sub-groups? Maybe we will see an increasing demand for sub-forums? As I said many posts ago, it seems almost inherent that we "straight white males" or whatever are unable to see the issues the way those who perceive a need for a sexual orientation-based, gender-based, or even race-based sub-forum apparently do. I have never seen a "stink eye" given to a diver, but that is probably because I am oblivious. I would think travel advice could be sought on a general travel forum, as the same issues would arise whether the travel is scuba-related or not. I think we who cannot understand need to give up the logical analysis and just accept that we will never understand. I'm not going to let it bother me that I cannot understand.

Well put.
 
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