12 boys lost in flooded Thai cave

[The Chairman]

Saw the CNN report on the medic coming to visit the boys. They hope to release all of them by this Thursday. I never thought about them suffering from pulmonary issues, but I guess there were enough mold and crap down there to impair them.

 

[Schwob]

A sub in a cave is not a stupid idea in general, see Speleonaut - Wikipedia , but in this Thai cave it certainly was.

In reply to anove post but drifting a bit off topic:
Hey, with a few decades delay that guy, Jochen Hasenmayer is a big reason I ultimately started to dive. Listened to him in person, twice eben (as a schoolkid and as a young adult ); I think,at the Blautopf.
Blautopf - Wikipedia

....and was absolutely fascinated with what he was doing. Well, then he had his accident and life interfered... and these days thinking things over a bit more generally substitutes for fascination. But whether one buys into his theories or not, that guy is some cool dude.

 

[Colliam7]

Best get back on track on what an amazing job these guys did and what lessons can be learned. And there are lessons to be learned.

Yes!!! Thank you. Let's get the thread back on a track where we can better understand what took place, and what lessons were learned, so that all of us can go forward as more competent, knowledgeable, situationally aware divers.

 

[Jack Hammer]

And Stanton went into the flooded cave & found the boys, not Unsworth. So any info (restriction dimensions for example l) from Stanton would be more recent condition of the flooded cave.

Unsworth has been mapping the cave system for a while. He knows the system intimately and was the one who was able to describe the system and tell folks where to look, how the cave is shaped, and how to get around. Caves are very slow (rock) to change size.

 

[InTheDrink]

Right. Getting things back on track as a novice and non cave diver.

We have a Herculean outcome.

Our focus should be on everyone involved in this amazing unbelievable rescue. It was a team effort and with the pumps dying at the end and the weather holding in between it shows just how dangerous this was.

People didn’t need to risk this but they did and thankfully got a good result.

How does one make such decisions? No real protocol or precedent to go by and if it goes belly up you’re held accountable.

Skill courage mental strength and no ******* around and no ego. These guys lives were on the line also.

Think it goes back to old fashioned altruism.

 

[JohnnyC]

Saw the CNN report on the medic coming to visit the boys. They hope to release all of them by this Thursday. I never thought about them suffering from pulmonary issues, but I guess there were enough mold and crap down there to impair them.

Histoplasmosis is no joke! It's not normally an issue in healthy people, but the fear is that the boys have weakened immune systems (your immune systems tanks with prolonged time spent in a cave).

Histoplasmosis - Wikipedia
Histoplasmosis | Types of Diseases | Fungal Diseases | CDC

 

[InTheDrink]

Well between physiogical issues and physiological issues they’ve got stuff to deal with for sure but these are stoic boys and I think they will be ok.

I do however hope they get proper medium and long term care. It’s the stuff of nightmares.

But they all did it. All but one which is incredibly sad. The team did it.

Whatever nightmares the whole team might have will hopefully be tempered which what the achieved.

 

[KevinNM]

How does one make such decisions? No real protocol or precedent to go by and if it goes belly up you’re held accountable.

Choose wisely who you put in charge, and then give them the authority and resources to do the mission without micromanaging.

 

[Tassi Devil Diver]

How does one make such decisions? No real protocol or precedent to go by and if it goes belly up you’re held accountable.

It has been reported that the Australian Government negotiated diplomatic immunity for the two Australian divers Harris and Challen to avoid prosecution by Thai authorities should things have gone terribly wrong.

 

[RockiesFan]

But they didn't... which is nothing short of absolutely amazing.