DGX now selling Lenhardt & Wagner compressor

[iain/hsm]

@iain/hsm is there a compressor setup you would recommend for $5k or less?

Is the wrong question. We need to stay on topic. (or at least I do)
But if you need a clue as to any other supplier who doesn't make 30% selling you a compressor to you and is happy with 10% I could make a list LOL

And another reason why you should never buy a compressor off a dive shop I guess.

 

[Wookie]

Is the wrong question. We need to stay on topic. (or at least I do)
But if you need a clue as to any other supplier who doesn't make 30% selling you a compressor to you and is happy with 10% I could make a list LOL

And another reason why you should never buy a compressor off a dive shop I guess.

Typically, Americans do not shop for reliability, quality, or any other variable aside from price. So the question you can answer might be "what is the best 6 CFM compressor I can get that will give me a minimum of grief, with long service intervals and a large sump so I only have to change oil once a (insert time here), that has dealer support for parts and service, and has easy to source long lived filters". That is not a question an American would ask, to my eternal sorrow.

An American would ask "what is the best (with no indication as to what they consider best) compressor I can buy for (XX) dollars."

Of course, the second question is completely subjective and totally depends on the asker's value, which is obviously price point.

So an American sees something he feels he can afford, he buys it, and his sorrow comes along later when he has to change filters every 11 fills or he has to change oil every 2 months or whatever.

Someone in the third world values a compressor that can run thousands of hours and he has to remember to order valve service kits at some point. Someone making his living with a liveaboard dive boat values the same thing.

 

[guruboy]

Typically, Americans do not shop for reliability, quality, or any other variable aside from price. So the question you can answer might be "what is the best 6 CFM compressor I can get that will give me a minimum of grief, with long service intervals and a large sump so I only have to change oil once a (insert time here), that has dealer support for parts and service, and has easy to source long lived filters". That is not a question an American would ask, to my eternal sorrow.

An American would ask "what is the best (with no indication as to what they consider best) compressor I can buy for (XX) dollars."

Of course, the second question is completely subjective and totally depends on the asker's value, which is obviously price point.

So an American sees something he feels he can afford, he buys it, and his sorrow comes along later when he has to change filters every 11 fills or he has to change oil every 2 months or whatever.

Someone in the third world values a compressor that can run thousands of hours and he has to remember to order valve service kits at some point. Someone making his living with a liveaboard dive boat values the same thing.

Or maybe $X is the budget that can be afforded or considered for the item. Thinking that the only thing worth buying is the “best regardless of price” is some first world elitest attitude.

I did not ask “what is the best compressor for $5k or less?”

I asked “is there a compressor setup you would recommend for $5k or less?”

The answer to the question I asked could very well be “no”

 

[Wookie]

Or maybe $X is the budget that can be afforded or considered for the item. Thinking that the only thing worth buying is the “best regardless of price” is some first world elitest attitude.

I did not ask “what is the best compressor for $5k or less?”

I asked “is there a compressor setup you would recommend for $5k or less?”

The answer to the question I asked could very well be “no”

You took what I said as an insult, and I didn't mean it that way. Only an observation that most Americans do not look beyond the price of the item when they buy, and to be fair, you aren't making your living with it.

And you are right, you asked for a recommendation, not a subjective recommendation. My apologies. I was trying to translate between Iain and you. Bugger all.

 

[guruboy]

You took what I said as an insult, and I didn't mean it that way. Only an observation that most Americans do not look beyond the price of the item when they buy, and to be fair, you aren't making your living with it.

And you are right, you asked for a recommendation, not a subjective recommendation. My apologies. I was trying to translate between Iain and you. Bugger all.

FWIW, I did not take it personally but I do disagree with the generalization made.

 

[Wookie]

FWIW, I did not take it personally but I do disagree with the generalization made.

I did not say that the most expensive was the best. I said that Americans tend to place a higher value on the price than they do other considerations. Often to their own sadness.

 

[BoltSnap]

"what is the best 6 CFM compressor I can get that will give me a minimum of grief, with long service intervals and a large sump so I only have to change oil once a (insert time here), that has dealer support for parts and service, and has easy to source long lived filters".

In your experience, what is? (for 12 CFM or close to it)

 

[guruboy]

I did not say that the most expensive was the best. I said that Americans tend to place a higher value on the price than they do other considerations. Often to their own sadness.

The generalization I disagree with is the Americans one. Sorry for not making that clear earlier.

 

[Wookie]

In your experience, what is? (for 12 CFM or close to it)

Bauer K-14, Mako 5407, I have no issues in the USA with the Coltri, in Libya YMMV, Ingersoll Rand newer than 10 years old, I stay away from Eagle, Max-Air, and anything I can't pronounce.

But I guess the real answer is, what's your tolerance for break-downs? Do you have room for a spare compressor? Can you afford a second tier new compressor and have a used top tier compressor to back it up? Is a good rebuilt Bauer or Mako a better choice than a new cheaper unit? Only you know that answer, but I abused* my Mako compressors terribly for many years, and while they did break, they never both broke at the same time.

*By abused, ambient temperature 120 degrees, continuous run 16 hours a day, 32% nitrox.

Oil change every 100 hours, filter change every 25 hours, and double the valve and piston maintenance, or halve the interval int he book. I replaced all valves and 4th stage piston and liners every 1500 hours.

 

[StefinSB]

So the question you can answer might be "what is the best 6 CFM compressor I can get that will give me a minimum of grief, with long service intervals and a large sump so I only have to change oil once a (insert time here), that has dealer support for parts and service, and has easy to source long lived filters".

Ian?