EireDiver606
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Yes. They’re very good also but I prefer the 12l for my trim.
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Today I saw my first pair of LP50 doubles. Another diver was trying them out for the first time while I was getting my first dive on my HP80 doubles. I was surprised to see how long LP50s are and had to look up their length - about 4” taller than my HP80s.
I think it depends mostly on how tall the diver is. A short diver with long narrow doubles has them inconveniently riding on his buttocks. A tall diver with short wide doubles will be top heavy.
There are of course many variants of steel tanks available, but the most common situation is: European steel 230bar 7l, 8.5l, and 12l are long and narrow. The 8.5l is nice for tall guys like 190cm (6'6). Whereas steel 8l and 10l are wide and short, good for divers 170cm (5'6) and shorter. There are wide short 12l tanks and they are popular for single tank diving, but not as doubles.
It's mostly the length of the diver's torso. Divers with long legs and a short torso may prefer short tanks although being tall. Always try first before deciding.
There are of course many variants of steel tanks available, but the most common situation is: European steel 230bar 7l, 8.5l, and 12l are long and narrow. The 8.5l is nice for tall guys like 190cm (6'6). Whereas steel 8l and 10l are wide and short, good for divers 170cm (5'6) and shorter. There are wide short 12l tanks and they are popular for single tank diving, but not as doubles.
It's mostly the length of the diver's torso. Divers with long legs and a short torso may prefer short tanks although being tall. Always try first before deciding.
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@Marie13 that's one of the very nice things about them for those of us that want smaller tanks. They're the same height as Faber FX100's, and less than an inch shorter than an AL80. Quite nice for that. The HP80's are unique little tanks for shorter divers.
When I'm choosing tanks, my priority list is as follows
Length-needs to be comfortable and this should trump most other things.
Capacity-you obviously need a minimum capacity for the dives you are doing. Most manufacturers have a 7.25" and 8" tank in similar lengths with the 8" tanks having about 25% more capacity.
Buoyancy-once you sort out the above, buoyancy will dictate either a specific manufacturer, lp vs hp, etc.
When I'm choosing tanks, my priority list is as follows
Length-needs to be comfortable and this should trump most other things.
Capacity-you obviously need a minimum capacity for the dives you are doing. Most manufacturers have a 7.25" and 8" tank in similar lengths with the 8" tanks having about 25% more capacity.
Buoyancy-once you sort out the above, buoyancy will dictate either a specific manufacturer, lp vs hp, etc.
They worked out pretty well for me yesterday.
211ratsbud
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Well considering I just scooped a set of pst104's, I plan to give the 85's a rest for a while and make these my default favorite. I'm 6'5ish 300 lb, pretty close to a good fit .
Degenerate
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Picked these up very recently and I absolutely love them, I want more of them.
2x7L 300 bar, roughly equal to 150cuft, more if you overfill them which is never a problem here...
Beer for scale.
The brown mark below the lower tank bank isn't rust, it was just crap on the surface that I have since scrubbed off.
2x7L 300 bar, roughly equal to 150cuft, more if you overfill them which is never a problem here...
Beer for scale.
The brown mark below the lower tank bank isn't rust, it was just crap on the surface that I have since scrubbed off.
tmassey
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The second Faber starts making LP50's in HDG, I'm buying a set. But I'd be really disappointed to buy them in epoxy, and have the HDG's come out a few weeks later... So everyone else buy up the epoxy ones!
Or I'd buy them in epoxy used in a heartbeat, but I've never seen a set used. (OK, I saw one, but he wanted only $100 less than new -- and out of hydro!
)Degenerate
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The second Faber starts making LP50's in HDG, I'm buying a set. But I'd be really disappointed to buy them in epoxy, and have the HDG's come out a few weeks later... So everyone else buy up the epoxy ones!
Or I'd buy them in epoxy used in a heartbeat, but I've never seen a set used. (OK, I saw one, but he wanted only $100 less than new -- and out of hydro!
Smaller doubles are awesome!
I can get the redundancy of doubles for rec dives withouth having to carry a pair of fatty 12L tanks, but still have a ton of air for long dives.
Here in Sweden we got the Aga 324 tanks in abundance, our firefighters used these for a good bit but not anymore so you can usually find them really cheap.
They're 300 bar 2x4L tanks, I got a mate who works as a firefighter and their station is littered with them, he's been begging me to come down to the station and take some off their hands
There's also a version called 326 which is the same with 6L tanks, they're not as common though.
Only downside is there's only one DIN output (and it's located a bit awkward) so they're useless for practicing any double tank drills, but for rec dives they're totally awesome.
agadiver78
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The AGA Divator MK1 is still a very dive able system with excellent breathing characteristics.
However, spares are getting difficult to find let alone obtain.
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However, spares are getting difficult to find let alone obtain.
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