Clipping SPG on a d-ring

[BlueTrin]

A few sections of bike inner tube slices stretched over a d-ring on webbing stops it from flattening onto the webbing.

Sorry, I cannot picture how you do it. Do you have a photo ?

 

[The Chairman]

When there is a restriction during a cave dive,

Ah, now we are talking about something that's not "basic". I'm usually sidemount in a cave (Petrel AI) or on a CCR (O2 on Right Chest D-Ring, Dil on Left Chest D-Ring). I've been through a number of restrictions, and have never had an issue.

 

[1atm]

I seem to just miss the ring and make it flat with my hand.

I do pretty much what is shown in the video in post #12. If the D-ring is flat, just find it with your index finger or middle finger. Then curling that finger will automatically place the bolt snap onto the D-ring. In my experience, with a little bit of practice, it becomes automatic, you dont even have to think about it.

Regarding the left chest D-ring etc, I guess it depends how much you buy into the DIR philosophy of scalability and standardization. Which in turn is only relevant if you plan to progress further. That is to say if you know for sure that you will always stay in the recreational realm, then it really doesn't matter. Chest D ring is fine. If however you might progress further, a chest D ring becomes a very bad place for an SPG when there are also 1-2 stages clipped to it. Same is true for the cave. Even if you don't get stuck in restrictions, its simply good etiquette and responsibility to try and impact the cave as little as possible. If you might end up with this kind of diving, the SPG will end up on the hip D ring. And then you’ll benefit from always having done it that way, rather than having to unlearn/readjust something as simple as an SPG check whilst you're learning to dive stages for the first time. Again, if you are sure to never go that far, do what works for you...

 

[The Chairman]

Which in turn is only relevant if you plan to progress further.

Yeah, this is a silly reason to do something. 98% of cave divers don't want or need DIR conformity. In fact, many openly mock the idea that one solution works for everybody. I don't rig out my various kits the same way because that would be dumb. What's the point? I'm not going to clip side mount SPGs on my left belt D-Ring. I'm not going to separate my O2 and Dil gauges from their Manual Add Valves on my CCR. I don't try to rig Rosie, my diesel tractor like my zero-turn or Vanessa, my dive van. The gas gauges are (gasp) in different places and the zero turn doesn't even have one! Somehow, I'm smart enough and flexible enough to switch from one to the other with no issues. Humans adapt readily to different situations.

While it's great to get advice from all the years, upon years of experience here on SB, your diving is entirely up to you. Ergo, do what works for you. Don't feel like you have to follow the masses, as sometimes that "M" is silent. I've seen lots of rigs over the years. Some that I am impressed with and others that confuse the crap out of me. I steal ideas and solutions from the ones that impress me and try to take that one step further. Dive and let dive. Don't stop thinking. Don't simply accept the status quo. Improve. Adapt. Overcome. Have fun!!!

 

[Yellowdog]

Yeah, this is a silly reason to do something. 98% of cave divers don't require or need DIR conformity. In fact, many openly mock the idea that one solution works for everybody. I don't rig out my various kits the same way because that would be dumb. What's the point? I'm not going to clip side mount SPGs on my left belt D-Ring. I'm not going to separate my O2 and Dil gauges from their Manual Add Valves on my CCR. I don't try to rig Rosie, my diesel tractor like my zero-turn or Vanessa, my dive van. The gas gauges are (gasp) in different places and the zero turn doesn't even have one! Somehow, I'm smart enough and flexible enough to switch from one to the other with no issues. Humans adapt readily to different situations.

While it's great to get advice from all the years, upon years of experience here on SB, your diving is entirely up to you. Ergo, do what works for you. Don't feel like you have to follow the masses, as sometimes that "M" is silent. I've seen lots of rigs over the years. Some that I am impressed with and others that confuse the crap out of me. I steal ideas and solutions from the ones that impress me and try to take that one step further. Dive and let dive. Don't stop thinking. Don't simply accept the status quo. Improve. Adapt. Overcome. Have fun!!!

For the left over the shoulder route is the hp hose separate or attached to the inflator hose? Do you unclip to view or you can see the gauge without unclipping? 24” hose with a 2” brass and glass spg?

 

[BlueTrin]

For the left over the shoulder route is the hp hose separate or attached to the inflator hose? Do you unclip to view or you can see the gauge without unclipping? 24” hose?

I assumed it would have been under the left arm and clipping upwards being slightly sideways ?

I see people doing something similar when they use a long SPG: some clip under the belt or harness coming from under. This means you can look ‘down’ and see it.

 

[The Chairman]

For the left over the shoulder route is the hp hose separate or attached to the inflator hose? Do you unclip to view or you can see the gauge without unclipping? 24” hose?

I don't physically attach it to any hose. It runs on the right side of the corrugated hose and clips on the right side of the left chest D-Ring. It's never been an issue with slinging bottles. I can't remember having to pick it up to look at it, though if I'm close to a wreck, I'll flip it upside down for a bit. That being said, I am often diving with wireless AI, so you won't find it on me then. I'm heading to Fiji next week, and I'll be taking my gauge on a hose just in case I start to have issues with my transmitter.

By the way, I feel it's important to know your gear by touch. Eons ago, when I was a Boy Scout, I was an avid backpacker. Even back then, most people were surprised by how small a light I carried and how seldom I used it. If I needed something from my pack, I was always able to put my hand right on it without having to see it. Ergo, I rarely needed a light. Even as a mechanic, I know my tool box well. Oh, I might relocate a tool, or even a class of tools, but I can walk into my work shop, close my eyes and find almost any tool pretty damn quickly. If you come into my shop, you'll notice that there are all sorts of labels. Those aren't for me, but for my daughter and friends. If you put a screwdriver in the socket drawer, it's essentially lost to me until I open that drawer and move it to it's proper place. A place for everything and everything in it's place. If they don't know where something lives, they all know to leave it on my work table. In the same vein, since I dive a number of configurations, when I am getting ready to splash, I close my eyes and take a moment to find everything I'm going to need. Lights, SPG, Inflator, spool, SMB and so on. I also take a moment to focus on what the dive is all about and make sure I have all I need.

 

[The Chairman]

I assumed it would have been under the left arm and clipping upwards being slightly sideways ?

I don't run it under my arm. Too easy to get it entangled if I have to doff and don the BC. It runs along the left harness, where it has little chance of any entanglement.

 

[admikar]

I seem to just miss the ring and make it flat with my hand.

 

[AJ]

Use your forefinger to guide/block the ring. This won't work, as you're pushing the ring away.