CoCo View or Anthony’s Key?

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Coming in a bit late--to the original poster: If the non-divers (or minimal-divers) in the party are reasonably self-sufficient (happy with a book, some knitting, binge-watching netflix, adult beverages), then, staying at Playa Miguel beach houses and buying dive packages for the divers in the group at CocoView resort might be an attractive alternative. If your group size is around 4, I think 1 small Playa Miguel house becomes an alternative to 2x2 rooms.
 
Where's the BIG stuff, he keeps asking.
Send him on the Shark Dive while you stay at CCV...lol - I'm sure they offer it.

A compromise for both of you in the future might be a Turks/Caicos lveaboard. An amateur photog on our boat spent a lot oi dives under the coral - I saw his feet only several times and shot some excellent macro. meanwhile I was more interested in the dozens of sharks swimming overhead, I saw 4-5 dozen Stingrays also, counted 22 near one mooring. And quite a few turtles, We also heard but never saw Dolphins off West Caicos once. We did the T/C Explorer, there's also an Aggressor that runs basically the same route.
 
Send him on the Shark Dive while you stay at CCV...lol - I'm sure they offer it.

A compromise for both of you in the future might be a Turks/Caicos lveaboard. An amateur photog on our boat spent a lot oi dives under the coral - I saw his feet only several times and shot some excellent macro. meanwhile I was more interested in the dozens of sharks swimming overhead, I saw 4-5 dozen Stingrays also, counted 22 near one mooring. And quite a few turtles, We also heard but never saw Dolphins off West Caicos once. We did the T/C Explorer, there's also an Aggressor that runs basically the same route.

Sounds nice! Will keep T&C in mind for sure!
 
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These are cheap, and as required due to refractive index, they’re made of glass. I’ve been using the same durable one for 15 years, I’ve given away hundreds including at CCVs Seahorse Festival, they’re about 55mm and I just hold them in front of camera lenses to great effect- see Micro Images in my sig line.

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View attachment 538941 These are cheap, and as required due to refractive index, they’re made of glass. I’ve been using the same durable one for 15 years, I’ve given away hundreds including at CCVs Seahorse Festival, they’re about 55mm and I just hold them in front of camera lenses to great effect- see Micro Images in my sig line.

Pocket Magnifier <- Link

Thanks! Love the price too!
 
The entire BOGO offering by AKR is a silly illusory contrivance. This is most evident when comparing straight one-to-one with CCV rate structure (CCV being the only comp set) With a non-diver in tow, you’re going to get hosed. For two divers, you might come out $120 cheaper, but then again, they are different products.

So lets do the math to see what the actual savings are between CCV and AKR when you compare apples to apples. Doc claims you will only save about $120 per couple when you book at AKR. He claims this quite often. Having stayed at both properties, the "Over the Water" rooms at CCV are almost identical as the Key Deluxe rooms at AKR. Both are the best rooms they offer. Since my favorite time of the year to travel to Roatan is the spring around April/May, what would it cost a couple to stay at each property this coming spring?

CCV - $1564 + 297 (tax) = $1861 per person or $3722 for a couple.
AKR - $2699 + 513 (tax) = $3212 for two people.

The numbers don't lie. As you can see, a couple can save $510 by staying at AKR. How much do you get "hosed" if one person is a non-diver, CCV discounts a non-diver only $100 so your saving at AKR would only be $391. A far cry from $120.

To be fair, I have edited my numbers from my first post. The original numbers given to me were from a dive travel wholesaler who gives me an additional discount. The average person can't get that so I won't use them. But as you can see, you still save a great deal at AKR.
 
. Having stayed at both properties, the "Over the Water" rooms at CCV are almost identical as the Key Deluxe rooms at AKR. Both are the best rooms they offer.

But gosh, that’s not how “comps” or “comparatives” work...you don’t simply compare what you might consider “the best rooms they offer”. It doesn’t work that way.

The “best rooms” at AKR that you reference are that “short” boat ride away (every time you forget anything), and they’re parked on terra firma. Away from the ocean. In a thicket, shielded from any breeze in the months of April/May that you mention as the entire resort is tucked on the sloping Northwestern edge that blocks the prevailing SE breezes.

The CCV Cabanas and Bungalows are on stilts over a live and actively changing reef. CCV also offers less expensive on-shore rooms, what, 10’ off the shore? The pictures of the AKR offering look similar, but since you’ve been there, you know they’re situated over the channel muck dive which is a great dive, but it tends to stink every 12 hours as it is an intertidal zone.

You don’t mention the deeper differences, but it should be noted that AKR offers three single tank departure boat dives daily, kind of a hump in my book, plus only two night boat dives per week.i usually avoid this resort comparison for a number of reasons. 1) AKR does in theory let you access their shore dive in very limited hours, so if you’re ready to muddle thru that process and barren entry, if waves allow, you’ll have the AKR shore dive all to yourself. 2) the night dive at CCV is pretty much so an assumed thing, a dozen and more people can be seen wading out on the lovely shore dive, visiting the intact 130’ wreck sitting 300’ off in 55fsw.

Often there’s a droning “the two drop-off dives are always the same”. Well, yes they are if you slot into that “MID” diver group I described above. To that group of people, yes, everything looks the same. The more experienced divers relish the drop off dives and push them well past 1:30 bt’s. I’ll entertain criticism of that “same drop off dive’ if somebody would log 1:30. Hasn’t happened.

I’m old and have been shot a few times (you shoulda seen the other guys), and I have limited movement. I still get 4x a day at CCV plus a minimum of 1 night dive x 5. I’m getting 25+ dives a week and I can barely walk, certainly not wearing gear. The dive staff without asking makes that happen, and that applies to anyone who limps. Boats are handicapped ready by Honduran standards :wink: And then, again just for us old people, two steps to the dining room, or ramp. Same all over.

So 22 tanks of boat dives at CCV if I'm feeling frisky, but at AKR, hmmm, 17. At the low end of $45 per tank/dive these days, looks like AKR is shorting you $225, not including the night dive access conundrum.

I’m digressing from the comparatives, but there is so much more to consider than price...well, at least for me.

If you’ve stayed at both, you know the level of service provided in that price structure is sim0ly not the same, starting and ending with your entry and exit at the airport.

Doc claims this quite often...

Why yes I do. That’s because I’m not distracted by bright shiny objects (Oh look, a chicken) and I look at the full picture, not dazzled by the undeniably inflated price now being offered as a BOGO.

No one resort anywhere is best for everyone. I come to dive.
 
But gosh, that’s not how “comps” or “comparatives” work...you don’t simply compare what you might consider “the best rooms they offer”. It doesn’t work that way. .

Actually, that's exactly how it works. Apples to apples.

The “best rooms” at AKR that you reference are that “short” boat ride away (every time you forget anything), and they’re parked on terra firma. Away from the ocean. In a thicket, shielded from any breeze in the months of April/May that you mention as the entire resort is tucked on the sloping Northwestern edge that blocks the prevailing SE breezes.

Yes, the boat ride takes all of 60 seconds and maybe 60 seconds to wait for it or an entire two minutes worse case. I'm thinking we got lucky when we went in May as we had breezes. Not constant but never had constant breezes at CCV either.

The CCV Cabanas and Bungalows are on stilts over a live and actively changing reef. CCV also offers less expensive on-shore rooms, what, 10’ off the shore? The pictures of the AKR offering look similar, but since you’ve been there, you know they’re situated over the channel muck dive which is a great dive, but it tends to stink every 12 hours as it is an intertidal zone.

Never once did we smell anything unpleasant. Not once.

So 22 tanks of boat dives at CCV if I'm feeling frisky, but at AKR, hmmm, 17. At the low end of $45 per tank/dive these days, looks like AKR is shorting you $225, not including the night dive access conundrum.

Not sure where you come up with 17 for AK as they offer 20 boat dives at different locations as CCV offers 12 at different locations?

That’s because I’m not distracted by bright shiny objects (Oh look, a chicken) and I look at the full picture, not dazzled by the undeniably inflated price now being offered as a BOGO.

Everyone should look at the full picture when trying to decide about what resort to go to for their dive vacation. That full picture includes price. It shouldn't be the only consideration but it is an important one for most folks. You mislead folks when you say that a couple might save about $120 by going to AKR over CCV. You should spend some time on the AKR website so you'll be better informed when discussing them.
 
Both Cocoview and AKR do a great job catering to their customers. Some people prefer more independence with drop-off and shore dives (CCV). Some people prefer more boat dives (AKR). I don't want to argue the details of each resort.

The fact is if you are very price-conscious, the AKR BOGO deal provides large savings, especially if you are willing to go with the most "value" option offered at each resort. The Overwater versus Key Deluxe is actually the most favorable price comparison for CCV. Here are the posted prices pre-tax and the difference per person.

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Youshould spend some time on the AKR website so you'll be better informed when discussingthem.

Hmm, thats where i got the number of dives offered and included. Three a day,

Guess you’ve changed my thinking. Must look at the websites more and dive less.

Thanks
 

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