Rescue or ???

[Bob DBF]

I'm not sure about that. The CPR cert is needed to get the Rescue cert, but the Rescue cert doesn't require any continuing CRP certification. After all, all the cert says is that some time in the past you satisfied the standards. Kind of like a DM cert. You are always a DM whether you stay current and insured or not.

You hold the DM cert, however you can not act as a DM unless you fulfill the proffessional requirements. For the Rescue cert to be valid, the DM would have to be CPR current, that would be a proffessional requirement. I don't see how that requirement would be different for anyone else.

A friend of mine is a Doctor, he can no longer practice medicine, however it does not stop anyone from using his title when addressing him. Then, of course, there are doctors that are not MDs, so they don't have that issue.


Bob

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

Then, of course, there are doctors that are not MDs, so they don't have that issue.

A Doctor of Love for example.

 

[markmud]

A Doctor of Love for example.

Or a Doctor of Law for example (Juris Doctor).

 

[tursiops]

You hold the DM cert, however you can not act as a DM unless you fulfill the proffessional requirements. For the Rescue cert to be valid, the DM would have to be CPR current, that would be a proffessional requirement. I don't see how that requirement would be different for anyone else.

Your point was that you didn't have current CPR so your Rescue cert was not valid. I objected; I said your Rescue cert validity today has nothing to to with whether you have a valid CPR cert today or not. It is simply a statement that you took a certain class and passed it; it is not a license or an on-going professional certification. Your Rescue cert is valid; it never conferred on you any rights to "practice Rescue," only that at one point you sort of knew how, and might remember some of it if needed.

 

[markmud]

if anything, having credentials...

A c-card that says rescue diver is not a credential. It is a merit badge for a weekend course.

Is it a good course for amateur divers? Yes it is.

For me it is not because I have assets that I can never earn again (because I am a busted-down old man).

M-Camareon, your post is now part of the public record. I hope it is not used against you in a court of law. Describing yourself as a credentialed Rescue Diver could be hard to walk-back under cross examination by a really good atty. An atty who only wants 33% of your assets.

cheers,
markm

 

[M-Cameron]

A c-card that says rescue diver is not a credential. It is a merit badge for a weekend course.

Is it a good course for amateur divers? Yes it is.

For me it is not because I have assets that I can never earn again (because I am a busted-down old man).

M-Camareon, your post is now part of the public record. I hope it is not used against you in a court of law. Describing yourself as a credentialed Rescue Diver could be hard to walk-back under cross examination by a really good atty. An atty who only wants 33% of your assets.

cheers,
markm

jokes on them....33% of 0 is still 0


but if you want to be technical about it...

cre·den·tial
/krəˈden(t)SHəl/

1. a qualification, achievement, personal quality, or aspect of a person's background, typically when used to indicate that they are suitable for something.

im pretty sure a "merit badge" as you put it, is a "qualification" or "achievement".

i never once implied you are a coastguard rescue diver qualified

 

[markmud]

It is simply a statement that you took a certain class and passed it; it is not a license or an on-going professional certification.

Tursiops' statement above is your positive defense if you are sued. Too bad it may cost you a minimum of 10,000 dollars to prove your defense in court.

m

 

[markmud]

jokes on them....33% of 0 is still 0

Yes you are correct. I wrote that the atty wants 33% of your assets. He probably won't get it. But you will spend thousands of dollars keeping that atty from your money and years of your life living by the court's schedule.

You don't' get it. You have never been sued. You are naive. Getting sued and winning sucks.

Ask Ritchie Kohler how he felt about winning his lawsuit. It is a double edged sword.
m​

 

[M-Cameron]

Yes you are correct. I wrote that the atty wants 33% of your assets. He probably won't get it. But you will spend thousands of dollars keeping that atty from your money and years of your life living by the court's schedule.

You don't' get it. You have never been sued. You are naive. Getting sued and winning sucks.

Ask Ritchie Kohler how he felt about winning his lawsuit. It is a double edged sword.
m​

yeah i get it....getting sued sucks......but youre gonna get sued whether or not you have your "merit badge".....

.....unless you are advocating just not helping divers in distress?....otherwise i really dont know what point youre trying to make....

 

[NAM001]

So does KWS.

As far as furthering your training, I would recommend Tech 40 (or equal). It is the first truly comprehensive Scuba training I have received. The other stuff might be fun for some, and you gradually learn a lot. Not like tech training. Even the entry level tech course is truly worthwhile.

Good Luck,
markm

I just looked at my cert cards thinking i had a tech card. the card says ''' advanced recreational trimix""" to 160 feet or so. the book I though said tech though. Been a while since i took that class. Its still all tech to me