How much should I be spending on PADI training?

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That seems pretty reasonable to me since, according to PADI rules you'll need to re-take the entire course. (It SHOULD be required as there is likely new information out there since you took the course.)
Just to clarify, there is no limit in PADI to how long you can spend on a course IF you go back to the same instructor or an instructor with the same dive shop. Administrative things like medical and liability waivers may no longer be valid after 12 months, but you can just do new paperwork. It's the referrals from one shop to another to continue OW and other types of training that have a 12-month limit.

With such a long hiatus, I agree that starting over is the most prudent advice. If you can get back to the original dive shop, see if they can offer some sort of discount on taking the course again.
 
Just to clarify, there is no limit in PADI to how long you can spend on a course IF you go back to the same instructor or an instructor with the same dive shop. Administrative things like medical and liability waivers may no longer be valid after 12 months, but you can just do new paperwork. It's the referrals from one shop to another to continue OW and other types of training that have a 12-month limit.

With such a long hiatus, I agree that starting over is the most prudent advice. If you can get back to the original dive shop, see if they can offer some sort of discount on taking the course again.
Interesting. Thanks for the correction. When my son did the course last year, were explicitly told that after completing the "book work" he had a year after that to certify or he'd have to redo the e-learning (and pay again). Maybe someone at the dive shop misunderstood. We found them to be quite disorganized. I just assumed that was correct. I should have double checked the PADI site before posting here.

Unfortunately my son didn't complete the dives, so didn't get certified. Not for him.
 
I find pricing for OW courses to be somewhat opaque. A lot of places advertise a price that excludes things that are *not* optional costs. They also exclude certain things that may be technically optional, but that you will want. Because different shops' advertised prices don't all exclude the same things, it's difficult to comparison-shop even just on price, let alone if you're trying to assess actual value.

(ETA: Value is especially hard to assess because few people writing reviews have any basis for comparison. If you go looking on Yelp for a good burger, you'll see lots of opinions by people who've eaten lots of burgers and know what they're talking about. But how many people take more than one OW course? So when you do decide, pay it forward--you'll be unusually qualified to tell others how your course was compared to the first one you did!)

When I decided to get certified, I initially picked a local shop that listed a course price of about $800. But I was doing it with a friend, and she blanched at that price. Instead she did a little shopping on Groupon and found another shop advertising a price a little over $200 per person if we bought together. So we went with that. But it turned out that price didn't include the book (another $25), the rental gear (another ~$200ish, IIRC), or the personal gear we had to purchase (mask, fins, snorkel, booties; I bought the cheapest ones they had that fit and it still came to around $600). The rental gear did not include a hood or gloves (which in retrospect I could've really used), nor any signaling devices (which the coursebook said we had to have, so I shelled out for them), nor even a bag for the gear (which I also ended up buying from them). The plan was for us to do all our OW dives at the beach, but when conditions were looking poor, we had to decide whether to postpone indefinitely (meaning I wouldn't be certified in time for my vacation) or charter a boat. I managed to convince everyone in class to shell out another ~$150 plus crew tips so we could finish the course on time. I never did confirm exactly what that other $800 course did and didn't include, but I've seen other courses advertised that do a better job spelling out what they include, and it's by no means universal.

If you feel confident that you know how to dive and you just want the cheapest possible C-card, and if you're willing to drive a bit, I believe Pacific Wilderness in San Pedro offers the lowest total cost. They also have classes going on almost constantly. It's not bad instruction, from what I can tell, just done quickly, as most shops do. There's a higher caliber of instruction available at a significantly higher price, but it takes some doing to find it. Going with a GUE course might be the surest way to find it, though there are other options.

Anyway, if $500 ends up being the total price you have to pay, I'd say that's pretty good. Enjoy!
 
Just to clarify, there is no limit in PADI to how long you can spend on a course IF you go back to the same instructor or an instructor with the same dive shop. Administrative things like medical and liability waivers may no longer be valid after 12 months, but you can just do new paperwork. It's the referrals from one shop to another to continue OW and other types of training that have a 12-month limit.

With such a long hiatus, I agree that starting over is the most prudent advice. If you can get back to the original dive shop, see if they can offer some sort of discount on taking the course again.
And thanks from me. I never knew that. In fact I believe some instructors I used to know may not be aware of it either as I may have heard them talking about a 12 month limitation with the same shop.
 
?? You are suggesting using out-of-date, obsolete training materials?
That is really BAD advice, especially in THIS forum, for new divers and those considering certification.




Out of date, no mate, diving is still the same no matter the training materials, and as you have already read into the ops question regarding him being a possible returning diver, a couple of modern manuals may be just the thing for a brush up no matter which way he decides to go, or for anyone seeking some diving knowledge, so get off my back I need the room for a tank


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Just to clarify, there is no limit in PADI to how long you can spend on a course IF you go back to the same instructor or an instructor with the same dive shop. Administrative things like medical and liability waivers may no longer be valid after 12 months, but you can just do new paperwork. It's the referrals from one shop to another to continue OW and other types of training that have a 12-month limit.

With such a long hiatus, I agree that starting over is the most prudent advice. If you can get back to the original dive shop, see if they can offer some sort of discount on taking the course again.
Oh, I thought if you did not complete the course after 12 months you had to re do everything. I mean I have been diving and did everything like the tests, both pool days, i only missed the ocean dives. The place is still open, but it is a larger shop so not sure how personable they will be as I dont even know who the manager is. I was hoping I could just do the refresher course for half the price since i passed the padi written tests. but just to clarify, if i took all the tests 5 years ago there is not limit when I have to take it again ?
 
Maybe someone at the dive shop misunderstood. We found them to be quite disorganized. I just assumed that was correct. I should have double checked the PADI site before posting here.
Don't worry about it - there was a reminder of this in at least two of our internal PADI professional webinars this last year so PADI must be getting lots of questions on this very topic from shops! I wouldn't really know if that is on the website even.

Oh, I thought if you did not complete the course after 12 months you had to re do everything. I mean I have been diving and did everything like the tests, both pool days, i only missed the ocean dives. The place is still open, but it is a larger shop so not sure how personable they will be as I dont even know who the manager is. I was hoping I could just do the refresher course for half the price since i passed the padi written tests. but just to clarify, if i took all the tests 5 years ago there is not limit when I have to take it again ?
In case it helps, I found the wording from the 2007Q2 Training Bulletin, the official communications that all PADI pros have access to:
Q How long does a diver have to complete a PADI course?
A There is no time limit as long as the student diver resumes training with the same instructor, or with another instructor at the same dive center. A PADI Referral is valid for one year (12 months) from the last completed training component (except Adventures in Diving and Specialty Programs which have no time limit on referrals); however, this is not the case for course completion. If there is a 12-month (or longer) break in training, have the student diver complete new administrative paperwork including a liability release, medical statement and Safe Diving Practices Statement of Understanding. Reassess and remediate where appropriate.​

It should give you something to discuss with your dive shop in case they try to quote some (nonexistent) PADI policy on course expiry. They are obligated, in a sense, to help you complete the certification you already paid for. Certainly the best outcome would be a discount on a full course; alternatively, you may be able to work out a combination of pool check dive, extra dives, knowledge reviews, final exams, etc. with them. After all, they are responsible for your safety and readiness for open water dives, so they can legitimately ask you to do the remediation work.

I hope you can get to an arrangement that's good for both sides!
 
Out of date, no mate, diving is still the same no matter the training materials, and as you have already read into the ops question regarding him being a possible returning diver, a couple of modern manuals may be just the thing for a brush up no matter which way he decides to go, or for anyone seeking some diving knowledge, so get off my back I need the room for a tank


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Dangerous nonsense.
 
PADI prefers you spend all your money on PADI. ALL of it.
 
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