Bungee types - again ;)
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Then that's news to me...
FIxed loop bungee (uses a triglide) as principal, and continuous bungee as backup is what was recommended up to a year ago (or something). I doubt he's changed anything on that side...
Edit: I might be wrong though, really haven't paid attention to any recent "insane evolutions" since I saw that people got all wet about a belt buckle or a d-ring...
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On his video series he shows sliding (floating) loop, not (fixed) loop.
He does it with a bungee 'floater'. I use XDeep o-rings, as I take them off the front waist (why, oh why, XDeep??) and replace with low profile metal. So they're spare, very sturdy and work excellently as floaters. Somewhat of a compromise between floating and fixed... as the o-rings are less 'slidey'.
For students in other rigs (not XDeep) I show/configure them with 6mm bungee floaters and loops.
Belt buckles? Let's talk Apeks... LOL Seriously though... traditional weight-belt style buckles are soooo passé...
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Same here. I made myself a Razor clone in 2010 before the Bat Wing was released and used it for cave diving and I used the single bungee too. Since that I have moved on to loops though. I tried a few other rigs and ended up making my own.
The razor was a great idea and I actually think it was mistake to have such a high price point, I believe the Stealth took a lot of the business Steve could have gotten....
And yes, a Razor 3.0 would be good. Loops and a better weight system would be nice.
@razor, please anwer this:
Andy has been an instructor since before you started diving, has more dives in SM than you, tried more systems than you etc. so he is more experienced than you in every way, right?... and you still think you know better?
If you feel lectured by him you should thank him for the free lesson, dude.
What's really ironic is this little anecdote:
Steve Martin and HP ware the only ones answering emails within a week or two when I tried differnet bungee system on my Razor.
I only had a few hundred dives than, still listened to people
I explained to them that I had gotten the recommendation that the Razor bungee system was not optimal for cold water.
HP was like: 'I would recommend and use a different way, but try what you like'.
Steve Martin stayed in character however.
He explained in short words that the single bungee was the only usable system.
He was more like: 'You should not question the experience of the 'Steves''.
Later he seems to have revised his opinion, I didn't
Steve Martin and HP ware the only ones answering emails within a week or two when I tried differnet bungee system on my Razor.
I only had a few hundred dives than, still listened to people
I explained to them that I had gotten the recommendation that the Razor bungee system was not optimal for cold water.
HP was like: 'I would recommend and use a different way, but try what you like'.
Steve Martin stayed in character however.
He explained in short words that the single bungee was the only usable system.
He was more like: 'You should not question the experience of the 'Steves''.
Later he seems to have revised his opinion, I didn't
No, I do not think I know 'better' I think I am experienced enough to know myself.
Andy (if I may call him by his first name) is doing several things very differently compared to myself.
I got rid of my ForceFins for example and am glad about it (still miss them sometimes, though).
Even perfect equipment might not work equally well for everybody.
Fixed that for you.Later he seems to have learnd something, I didn't
I share that opinion.
I have learned to understand however that they just do not want to 'razorize' everybody.
They could never keep up with demand at a lower price.
On Boot show in Düsseldorf they have sold every Razor they brought with them for three years in a row.
At half the price they would need to bring along shipping containers of them.
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