Fatal Record attempt in Garda Lake Italy

[chrisch]

Wow... .it must be as cold as a Yeti's butt at that depth and a 300m dive requires a very long exposure and considerable logistical support. Nothing about doing this as a shore dive makes much sense.

R..

The lake shelves steeply. Although there are a few boats there nearly all diving is from the shore. I don't think there are any specialist dive support vessels and so you would need to bring something in by road.

Although I have never been below 50m in the lake I can see that (with a scooter) you could get very deep very quick. To the north of the lake is more shallow (Diving Areas Garda Trentino - Lake Garda)

 

[Banan]

Odnaleziono i wydobyto ciało Adama Pawlika

The body has been found 284m deep and recovered. The search involved rescue services as well as volunteer divers and an ROV. The website cites Italian media as the source.

 

[fsardone]

Yes, it has been found and recovered today.
Sub disperso nel Garda, ritrovato il corpo: era a 284 metri di profondità - Il Giorno
Inghiottito nel Garda: ritrovato il corpo del sub polacco - Giornale di Brescia

The second link says that the guy who went to 316 mt to test the dpv was in the same group of friends. He planned to match his dive and a bit further (333).

MODs probably should change subject from missing to lost

 

[Banan]

Kolejny Polak zginął we włoskim jeziorze Garda - Nurkowanie Jolly Diver

Some translated updates:

"The Pole's equipment was complete, including a scooter and two bailout tanks. We suspect that Adam, just like he did with his previous dives, was attempting the record descent in a dual rebreather configuration, one backmount (X-CCR) and another sidemount (Flex CCR)."

"[...] was transported south to Paghera di Campione harbour where it was examined by the coroner. Finally, the Pole's body was taken to Gavardo hospital, where it will be handed over to the family. Autopsy will not be carried out."

 

[CuzzA]

If these record dives are being done in the name of 'research', the families should release the videos so we can 'learn' from it.

 

[cathal]

If these record dives are being done in the name of 'research', the families should release the videos so we can 'learn' from it.

No mention of research being the objective in this Polish Article:
"Italian news websites have just been given a message about finding and extracting the body of Adam Pawlik. The Polish diver tried to break the record in the deepest dive, going down to a depth of 333 m, in the waters of the Italian Lake Garda."
Odnaleziono i wydobyto ciało Adama Pawlika

 

[CuzzA]

No mention of research being the objective in this Polish Article:
"Italian news websites have just been given a message about finding and extracting the body of Adam Pawlik. The Polish diver tried to break the record in the deepest dive, going down to a depth of 333 m, in the waters of the Italian Lake Garda."
Odnaleziono i wydobyto ciało Adama Pawlika

So we always generally hear from a few that these record attempts can help advance the sport and most of us always argue we already did the research and know what will happen. So, if Pawlik, Doc Deep and the many others did not do it for anything other than hitting a number, then we really don't need to hear anymore excuses or bs about research or testing.

In other words, the scooter testing was bs, the guy just wanted to hit a number. I was being facetious, by the way.

 

[Diving Dubai]

You put a scooter in pressure pot and if it doesn't implode at 600 atm you can fairly safely assume it'll withstand 300 atm

Not always that simple.

From experience when we tested new Aircraft. (simplified)

First design is tested on the computer model - obviously the data output is only as good as the values inputted

Then we put an actual Airframe in a large test rig and by use of 100's of hydraulic rams subject it to flight test loads 24/7 (components like engines and undercarriage are simulate by large metal/concrete blocks). This testing will go on until the iron bird has exceeded many time the life expectancy of the design. It's inspected regularly (or when it goes bang) and defects are rectified and the real life data put back into the model

Then we have flight test aircraft, which do the same thing (the Iron bird always leads in "flight hrs") and again the results fed back. Generally defects appear which the model does not predict. Sometimes it ends in catastrophe.

Now Scooters are simple - but just placing one under pressure proves little other than the outer case will hold (which can be easily modeled)

Dynamic loads on the shaft would be harder to model and certainly wouldn't be tested in a static chamber. You'd need to apply a test load twist and turn the scooter to test gyroscopic forces. A complex rig for a tiny company making scooters? Even after that, you'd make some test dives to prove it.

A pacemaker would be contrast be easy to test

I'm not saying this is the reason for the dive.

 

[dmaziuk]

Shaft, what shaft? Go brushless DC, you won't need no stinking shaft.

 

[mdax]

You'all are delusional about this "research".
These are ego driving dumb dives, dr deep, this one...always the same story, pictures of gauges and how great someone is. There is no "research" at all going on here, that's a stupid claim by folks reaching for some logical reason for doing this.
Dumbest crap ever.

Want to dive sub 1k, np, go to a commercial diving school and sat dive, don't use the wrong equipment for the setting, that's just dumb.