When do you think virus-related disruptions will end?
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This topic has been running since the end of March, and it's interesting to see how the reactions change over time. Lot's of people who firmly believe in statistics provided by the governments.
So far, from what I have seen in non-political numbers, 99.92% to 99.98% of the population in Europe has a working immune system that handles the virus successfully. The less-than-0.1% group consists of people with multiple health problems, or have a genetically defect immune system. The majority of the COVID-19 patients admitted to the ICU are also obese.
The current medical knowledge is insufficient to cure that less-than-0.1% group, the only thing achieved so far, is keeping hundreds of patients on ventilators in the ICU, in a medically induced coma. If you want to make it, your own immune system has to do it.
And then the majority dies anyway.
Meanwhile, the healthy 99.9%++ is forced to restrict their social activities, work activities and so on. #stayhome and watch the economy of your country go down the drain.
The whole world is applauding the medical professionals for their relentless efforts, but when do we look in the mirror?
Example:
A child is born way too early. Mother Nature knows that not everything is 100% right, so the pregnancy stops.
But we humans know better, if the pregnancy was at least 26 weeks, the preterm is admitted to the NICU. In some countries, that line is at 24 weeks (or even less).
If the kid makes it, it needs at least 10 years to catch up with the kids that were in the womb for 40 weeks.
We have beaten Mother Nature.
And as humans, we're proud of it.
The moment this is about your son/daughter/family/friend, arguments against this statement are found in a book titled Ethics. And I will probably agree with every argument.
Just know that Mother Nature never read that book. She doesn't do ethics. She takes out every person, whose immune system can't cope with this virus. The whole world has tried to hide, and is still trying to hide. Living in government-induced fear for a virus that hasn't even reached the achievements of the influenza virus.
For everyone who has read this so far: my apologies if I have called you a genetic defect. It's socially not acceptable to do so. Like if you say someone is obese, it's called fat-shaming. Not done. So again, my apologies and I hope you'll survive COVID-19.
So far, from what I have seen in non-political numbers, 99.92% to 99.98% of the population in Europe has a working immune system that handles the virus successfully. The less-than-0.1% group consists of people with multiple health problems, or have a genetically defect immune system. The majority of the COVID-19 patients admitted to the ICU are also obese.
The current medical knowledge is insufficient to cure that less-than-0.1% group, the only thing achieved so far, is keeping hundreds of patients on ventilators in the ICU, in a medically induced coma. If you want to make it, your own immune system has to do it.
And then the majority dies anyway.
Meanwhile, the healthy 99.9%++ is forced to restrict their social activities, work activities and so on. #stayhome and watch the economy of your country go down the drain.
The whole world is applauding the medical professionals for their relentless efforts, but when do we look in the mirror?
Example:
A child is born way too early. Mother Nature knows that not everything is 100% right, so the pregnancy stops.
But we humans know better, if the pregnancy was at least 26 weeks, the preterm is admitted to the NICU. In some countries, that line is at 24 weeks (or even less).
If the kid makes it, it needs at least 10 years to catch up with the kids that were in the womb for 40 weeks.
We have beaten Mother Nature.
And as humans, we're proud of it.
The moment this is about your son/daughter/family/friend, arguments against this statement are found in a book titled Ethics. And I will probably agree with every argument.
Just know that Mother Nature never read that book. She doesn't do ethics. She takes out every person, whose immune system can't cope with this virus. The whole world has tried to hide, and is still trying to hide. Living in government-induced fear for a virus that hasn't even reached the achievements of the influenza virus.
For everyone who has read this so far: my apologies if I have called you a genetic defect. It's socially not acceptable to do so. Like if you say someone is obese, it's called fat-shaming. Not done. So again, my apologies and I hope you'll survive COVID-19.
broncobowsher
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Not a matter of "if" but "when"
Go back and look at those flattening the curve charts. The area under the line, that is the number of people needing a hospital visit. The area (the total number of people) is the same. If we did nothing this would be almost over with now. A chunk of those people would now be dead due to medical overload. As we flatten the curve, it just delays the inevitable. And the world sucks for longer. So RAISE the curve (but still in the medical capacity) and the end date will come sooner. In the end the same number are affected, same final result, just get it done sooner.
Go back and look at those flattening the curve charts. The area under the line, that is the number of people needing a hospital visit. The area (the total number of people) is the same. If we did nothing this would be almost over with now. A chunk of those people would now be dead due to medical overload. As we flatten the curve, it just delays the inevitable. And the world sucks for longer. So RAISE the curve (but still in the medical capacity) and the end date will come sooner. In the end the same number are affected, same final result, just get it done sooner.
You misinterpreted the sense of my comment, let me rephrase my comment above ...
The percentages you quote assume that 100% of the population have been exposed to Covid 19 and fail to take account that considerably less than 100% of the population has actually been exposed to the virus because of lockdown and social distancing.
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