Advanced Ice Diver?

[AfterDark]

Negative on that. No agency is going to teach you the "treat it like a cave" approach because it can't be done within any standard. Lost and cut line are particularly problematic (they are bad enough in a cave but at least you have walls, a ceiling, and tieoffs to help you look - potentially for the last few minutes of your life). There is no way to teach someone how to exit a giant expanse of silt with no walls, no tieoffs, and no flow when they lose or cut the line. You can do that on your own but no agency and no insurer is going to buy off on someone teaching you how to endanger yourself.

There are a few sites where it's no suicidal. For well trained divers, Morrison's Quarry in Quebec is quite reasonable to dive like a well lite cave - everywhere else forget it.

A good read is Cousteau's diving expeditions under the Artic ice. No lines, 100FSW and current. We had to keep an eye on the hole at all times. Not a direct quote but along those lines. Big balls.

 

[Erich S]

im working on an ADVANCED ice diver specialty as we speak ...it has more to do with rescue techniques and a few other things , im hoping its adopted by the agency as a main stream course and not a instructor specific specialty .............

Rescue makes sense. I wonder if that’s in the current course of Advanced Ice speciality that PADI now has?

 

[rick00001967]

I heard there are over 15,000 PADI distinctive specialties. Examples include zombie diver

Zombie diver ??? WHAAAAAT ??!!

 

[lowviz]

im hoping its adopted by the agency as a main stream course and not a instructor specific specialty .............

I'm in.

Let me know.

 

[lowviz]

Zombie diver ??? WHAAAAAT ??!!

Yeah, it's all for fun: Welcome

looking for fur something...

Edit: Found it.

I ran into a pack of them at a quarry. Amusing people, quite pleasant. Best I could find:

 

[abnfrog]

i dont belive there is a padi adv ice diver , unless its an instructor authored course

 

[tursiops]

I also do not think there is a PADI Advanced ice Diver specialty. There may be an instructor-authored "Distinctive Specialty" that PADI has blessed as meeting standards and safe to teach and dive, and has agreed (for a fee) to issue cert cards with PADI's name on them. But it is not a PADI Specialty....it is an instructor specialty that PADI has OK'ed.

I also do not believe there are 15,000 distinctive specialties, as one earlier poster said. Of all the instructors I've met all over the world, and in all the shops I've been in, I've only run across maybe half a dozen distinctive specialties. I'd guess a number like 500 or 1000 is more likely as an outside guess.

There is an even more confusing middle-ground; that is what PADI calls "standardized distinctive specialties" like O2 Provider, that PADI instructors can agree to teach if they use the standardized training materials. So given that there are lots of instructors who are accredited to teach things like O2 Provider and some others like Zombie Diver, there may be 15,000 distinctive instructors, but NOT of 15,000 different distinctive specialties.