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  1. toliver66

    Dive shop requirements for equipment purchases

    Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Yes, that would be the one. A company to step up to the plate for what? Some klutz dumping their coffee all over their lap? ...Seriously?... Assume some responsibility for what? It's not like McDonalds reached out the...
  2. toliver66

    Dive shop requirements for equipment purchases

    Yup... liability has gotten way out of hand in this country. When you can spill scalding hot coffee all over your self and not only sue someone else for it, but sue someone else for it and win with a $640,000 dollar award, then something is seriously wrong with the system.
  3. toliver66

    Dive shop requirements for equipment purchases

    I bought my first set of dive gear from various pawn shops before I got certified. I am amazed at how scuba gear has almost no resale value. I had the reg serviced and serviced the BCD myself. I got the same spew from the LDS i got certified at "You have to buy this $250 dollar mask, fins...
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    How an easy dive can go south at the drop of a hat.

    May be you will, maybe you won't, I don't know. The indecent I described is as close as I've ever came to losing my weight belt and I honestly don't want to find out the hard way weather you would rocket to the surface or not. A lot depends on how thick your wetsuite is and if you are properly...
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    How an easy dive can go south at the drop of a hat.

    You are exactly right. Thank you for pointing that out. Had my buddy been there to assist me it would have removed 90% of the panic inducing stress I found myself in. I make it a point to never dive "follow the leader style" anymore, we always dive side by side now. If I can't see my buddy in my...
  6. toliver66

    A Question of LDS Purchasing Etiquette

    Very nice setup Graeme Tolton. I have to agree with mathauck0814, Having a compressor is all about convenience. And maybe a little bragging rights too. ;)
  7. toliver66

    Is "learning the hard lesson" necessary?

    :shakehead: Yes dear... you are absolutely correct and I am completely wrong. My oh my what was I ever thinking? ---------- Post Merged at 02:31 PM ---------- Previous Post was at 02:28 PM ---------- :shakehead: Yes dear... you are absolutely correct and I am completely wrong. My oh my what...
  8. toliver66

    Is "learning the hard lesson" necessary?

    This is the post I was refering to: But you obviously can't tell the difference between "human error" and lack of "training" so maybe someone does need to take you by the hand and show you some examples. As for the rest of your silly ramblings... they are neither relevant to the subject at...
  9. toliver66

    My GoPro Movies - Sharks, Sea Turtles, Goliath Grouper, Stingrays, It's all here!

    You got my vote! :D Hmmmm..... looks fine on my screen and he is defiantly using a filter as you can see the red tint at the start of the video. Perhaps you just need to adjust the color on your monitor?
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    Is "learning the hard lesson" necessary?

    :confused: They are two very different statements with two very different meaning which I have already explained. the latter statement being the case, I do not disagree. Which I also clearly stated. You just want to argue. Examples of what? :confused: How a dive can go wrong despite your...
  11. toliver66

    A Question of LDS Purchasing Etiquette

    :shakehead: That's where I would have not so politely told him to kiss my hind-end and took my business else where. Where and how I spend my money is no ones business but my own. For a dive shop owner/employee to assume they can give me a tough time is unprofessional and unacceptable.
  12. toliver66

    Is "learning the hard lesson" necessary?

    If this is what you really intended to say... Considering that this is not at all what you said or implied in your original statement, then yes, you are absolutely correct. Your original statement: implies that nothing can go wrong during a dive if you are "practicing what you learned" which...
  13. toliver66

    A Question of LDS Purchasing Etiquette

    You were never on the hook in the first place! ;) Well done Force-E Divers.
  14. toliver66

    Is "learning the hard lesson" necessary?

    Thank you. And yes, that makes perfect sense. I have to stop you right there. In a phrase... "**** happens!" Things WILL go wrong despite your best efforts. Things that are beyond your control or any ability to influence will happen even if you are faithfully following every thing you were ever...
  15. toliver66

    Is "learning the hard lesson" necessary?

    Very good and interesting question. The incident that I had in my early diving days has always led me to say "...and I'm a better diver for it". But considering your question... maybe that is not an entirely accurate statement. I am not any more or less safety conscious or do any thing any...
  16. toliver66

    A Question of LDS Purchasing Etiquette

    We have a LDS like that. Says so right on their web site. :acclaim:I tip my hat to you SeaCobra!:acclaim: I wish all dive shop owners would follow your example!
  17. toliver66

    A Question of LDS Purchasing Etiquette

    Exactly! :rofl3: But hey... a fella can fantasize can't he? And... back to the real world :depressed: But I still refuse to take crap from a dive shop because they failed to earn my money. I can take my air-fill money else where also.;) :D
  18. toliver66

    A Question of LDS Purchasing Etiquette

    Not as far fetched as you might think. Divers direct ships their Blue Steel FX117 Steel Scuba Tank filled to 5000 psi unless it's air freight or international. Not a far cry from mail order air-fills. Shipping is the only real obstacle. ---------- Post Merged at 02:45 PM ---------- Previous...
  19. toliver66

    Diving without a buddy?

    I prefer my redundant air source to not be a free swimming entity with a mind of its own. So I keep my buddy strapped to the side of my tank. :D
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    Two 2nd stages, but only a single first stage?!?

    This thread brings to mind a question I've always wondered about. It is possible to breath straight off of a tank valve by just cracking it open just like you would breath from a free flowing reg in the event of a total regulator failure. This is just an option that pops into my head every time...
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