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Wouldn't a donating RB80 diver have to seal off the mouthpiec first when removing the mouthpiece to avoid flooding the loop? A very important step to remember when donating, unless you want to have both divers suddenly going to OC together, I would think...

While CDNN may not have had much impact on this particular topic, it was the namecalling that originated with CDNN in regards to a related topic and has since spread to be used against anyone bringing up an artifact from a wreck, that was bothering me. I really think that everything that...

Not to me personally... I'm a nobody in the grand scheme of things. But nevertheless the insults directed at wreck divers started with them. I've heard the exact same words (plunderers, criminals, etc.) repeated by the mob ever since, with very little variation. Funny how no one seemed to use...

The words and insults started with CDNN. An organization that has a propensity to steal someone else's work, stick in a few choice words and phrases of their own, and republish as exclusive original material.

Allison, while the quoted paragraph was yours, the response was meant to be more general. I'm getting very tired of all the BS and name-calling both here and in the rest of the scuba-related media. You may have thought of "plunderers" by yourself when writing your post, but I've heard the...

Ok, so let's just agree to disagree. You call those that don't object to divers bringing back souvenirs of their exploits plunderers and vicious criminals, and in return we'll call those that call us that self-righteous parrots and demagogues. That way enough insults fly both ways to even...

I see a rusting hulk because of the circumstances surrounding her sinking and because that's what she's become prior to the sinking itself. Historical aspects of a _real_ wreck, on the other hand, are endlessly fascinating to me; namely the tragedy and the events surrounding the sinking...

So have I. Once... The dispatcher cocked an eyebrow in disbelief, smirked, and was seen wearing a new pair of boots the next day... I don't recall the exact words that I overheard as I walked through the hall to an exit adjacent to the dispatcher's little cage, but it went something along the...

Artificial reefs are a renewable resource. there're dozens of ships all around this country alone, just waiting to be sunk along with whatever random junk still left on them once EPA has had their say. And they're certainly no pattern of stones... Just big rusting hulks riddled with holes and...

You walk down an empty street at night. You see a $100 bill on the ground. It's not yours. No one has noticed it on the ground before, until now. There's no one around watching you pick it up. Are you telling me that you wouldn't pick up that $100 bill because it's not yours, and thus it's...

A picked the flower whole. Root and all. True, there will be other flowers next year. Just as there will be other wrecks tomorrow, with more useless junk on them. And breaking the hand off a gnome would actually make the gnome look more like a real wreck than a random decoration, and thus...

The moral is, "If someone takes a flower of little worth from a field, a flower that means something to that someone, a flower that no one would miss or care about until the moment they saw it picked in that someone's hand - then is taking the flower really wrong?"

So let me drive a parallel here... I prance through a huge field in the park on a sunny summer day (I don't prance, even through fields on summer days, hence this statement establishes the example as purely hypothetical, but nevertheless relevant to the topic at hand). I see a pretty flower and...

You don't. But please try to fall back on those 30yrs of of experience in legal matters into account when you make blanket statements in the future. No longer criminal larceny, is it? I can see you took my words above to heart already... If I do dive it, it will be to see the ship and...

So is speeding... Until someone produces the original invoice for the said panel, adjusts the cost for 50yrs of depreciation, and ends up with a total of >$5000, it's not larceny if lifted. Since the item in question was written off in the first place, chances are it's scarcely worth...

So now it's a conspiracy!?! Criminal larceny?!?! :shakehead You telling me that that piece of junk that the hapless diver pulled out from so deep inside the wreck that probably only 1/200-300, if that, divers on her would have the skill and experience to get to, much less care about when...

An awful lot of hurricanes you guys get up there in puget sound. I've dived <20yr old artificial reefs off Pensacola so broken up and twisted up by the storms you can barely tell what's what anymore. I can hardly imagine what they'll look like in 40-60... -Roman.

One of my favorite dives around these parts is the Poling. It's been dived continuosly almost every single weekend since it's been sunk. There's hardly anything left on it, yet I still love the dive. Why you may ask? There's nothing left to look at, right? Because to me, and to many other...

Jonnythan... Have you been reading anything that others have posted? There's _NOTHING_ left on it to strip. Just rusty pieces of worthless debris. Short of someone taking a blowtorch to it, you couldn't ruin it any more than it already is. In fact, it may actually make it more interesting...

Sure it does! A wreck of historical significance (including circumstances of its sinking) is infinitely more interesting to dive and experience than an 800ft hulk of metal sunk so that Bubba in his 18ft fiberglass tub with a chevy V8 and extra fuel tanks strapped to the side could catch another...