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10,000+ dives

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by northernone, Jun 15, 2017.

  1. Trace Malinowski

    Trace Malinowski Cave Instructor

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Alexandria Bay, NY
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    In the Caymans, four dives a day was normal for me. It was just me and the captain often and someone had to lead. Sometimes, three if the photo pro was aboard and willing to give me a break. Sometimes, five when we had night dives. I never made only two. In the Bahamas, two or three a day was normal. In the Keys, I got to dive more by working at Divers Direct rather than on a boat. My work schedule was 2 PM - 10:30 PM which made it possible for me to dive twice every morning with one of the operators for free before going to work. On days off, I'd go diving up to 4 or 5 times a day (2 tank AM, 2 tank PM, + night) or teach classes. Yeah. You can rack up a lot of dives in paradise! Warm water makes it inviting. Now, I'd rather just make one a day unless I'm cave diving.
     
  2. tilikum

    tilikum Banned

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    How did you get that job?
     
  3. Trace Malinowski

    Trace Malinowski Cave Instructor

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Alexandria Bay, NY
    2,325
    2,501
    113
    Me, tilikum?
     
  4. tilikum

    tilikum Banned

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    Yeah, how did you wind up in the Caymans and how much experience did you have when you first arrived?
     
  5. Akimbo

    Akimbo Lift to Freedom Volunteer Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    How many days a year could you work that schedule? That's fun for a week or two but can get tough making 1000 dives/year even in warm and shallow water (Edit: I assume, never had the opportunity). Bumping up against no-decompression limits day after day can even earn chamber rides. Burning through 4-5 cylinders a day in <40' is great on a photographer's resume though. Sorry for the random nature of the thoughts.
     
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  6. cerich

    cerich ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Georgia
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    most Cayman instructors (I was one for 5 years as well) did 600-800 dives a year. The instrs on the smaller ops generally did on the higher end, hardly ever would one exceed 1000 dives a year.

    To do 10,000 dives as a Full time resort instructor on average would take approx 9-12+ years. We can name the people that have done that Trace.

    Even with your unusual keys experience doing 2 days a day and teaching on days off, you would get approx a dozen dives a week, maybe a bit more. That is about 600-650 dives a year so would take over 15 years to get 10k dives

    Anybody who had a position managing in a resort busy dive environment..well in truth you could cut the amount of diving in half to as much as 75% versus the dive instructors/boat DM's. Yet I see often those people claiming they did as much diving as a non management resort instructor. Never saw that happen in real life, even among people like you and I that actually like diving more than most resort instructors..who all love it.

    Again, most people claiming 10k+ dives are full of crap. I see shop owners that claim it in the US... big name instructors that never actually worked in the high volume resort environment (but some have books..so they must be special eh?). One person I watched as he updated his resume every year online go from claiming just over 1000 dives to claiming over 10,000 in about 6 years..(must not have known about the wayback website) while posting his non dive vacations, travel, training programs taught etc. on social media. When somebody is claiming numbers like that, even a few weekends off diving, a couple weeks travel time and stuff like a cold can make the math mean that they were doing 6-8 dives a day for their claim to be true. We both know that isn't and didn't happen. Yes, I have done a few days with more than 5 dives,it isn't something you can maintain day on day or even more than the very rare day indeed

    But, very few will call others out at that (our) level because..then scrutiny may fall back on them and they may be found wanting with their own skeletons

    Nobody wants a honest account, not even the customers who like being able to say "I took a class from so and so, who has over 10k dives, is the author of books, designs equipment, is a training director for some agency etc." because it makes them look somehow more "special" even when as is often the case, the class was horrid.
     
  7. cerich

    cerich ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Georgia
    6,678
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    it's Trace, he most likely flew down and picked up some girl for a place to say while he job hunted, then charmed some other girl into hiring him.

    However..those in glass houses...
     
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  8. Akimbo

    Akimbo Lift to Freedom Volunteer Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Maybe, maybe not. Some people that live on a tropical coast with their own boat for 30-50 years could do it comfortably. I wonder how many dives Jerry Greenberg racked up, though he probably didn't log them.
     
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  9. Steve_C

    Steve_C Divemaster

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Raleigh, NC USA
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    Will just note that if the person is now 59 and started diving at 19, then 10,000 dives comes out to 250 a year average. If on an instructional day they averaged 3 dives, that is 83 days of instruction per year.

    Just saying I will believe an old tortoise has reached 10,000 before I believe a young hare has.

    Besides sea turtles are better swimmers than sea hares.
     
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  10. cerich

    cerich ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Georgia
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    By the way, Trace has many of those accomplishments, and if you choose him as your instructor I am 100% certain you will get an exceptional class, he's truly an exceptional instructor, better than me for darn sure.
     

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