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12 boys lost in flooded Thai cave

Discussion in 'Search & Rescue' started by Dogbowl, Jun 26, 2018.

  1. clownfishsydney

    clownfishsydney Contributor

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    A new link to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) Four Corners show from Monday night about the rescue. Excellent viewing. Out Of The Dark. This appears to work no matter where you are located.
     
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  2. Schwob

    Schwob Solo Diver

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    :)Scuba-diplomacy...?
     
  3. Schwob

    Schwob Solo Diver

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    Seems to work in the US (first few seconds), will need to watch later!
     
  4. Greenjuice

    Greenjuice Contributor

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    The more I read the detail of what was accomplished, the more I wonder if the mission could have been led at all by a single person in charge. The model of multidisciplinary teamworking appears more appropriate here.

    Each team had its special skills, cave diving, water pumping and stream diversion, meteorology, medical support, pulley systems, helicopters, food and nutrition, ground logistics, power supply, managing the press, etc.

    It is more likely than not that each team knew well what was possible, realistic and safe within their own specialty, but not enough of everyone else's specialty to be able to drive the whole mission concept from beginning to end.

    The essence being that of mutual interdependence, each component offering options and doing their part without which the mission might have been compromised. Working together by communicating well, sharing ideas and making consensus decisions.
     
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  5. Bob DBF

    Bob DBF Solo Diver

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    I've seen multidisciplinary teamworking in action, and the meetings alone would have taken longer than the rescue.



    Bob
     
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  6. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Are you saying it would have gone better if one person had been in charge and giving orders to all?
     
  7. Greenjuice

    Greenjuice Contributor

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    From the ABC video above, it sounds like it might have been to cover the medical aspects of what they were about to do.
     
  8. Bob DBF

    Bob DBF Solo Diver

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    A person in charge does not have to give orders to all to be effective, especially when working with professionals. However decisions have to be made and problems resolved, and committees take longer and do not necessarily find a better solution.

    That being said, I look from the perspective of an American, and I do know the Thai culture is different and don't know how that would effect the situation. They seem to be more deferential and helpful than the confrontational Americans I am used to.



    Bob
     
  9. Saniflush

    Saniflush Divemaster

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    I think you're wrong.


    :stirpot:
     
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  10. Neilwood

    Neilwood Contributor

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    I disagree with you.


    :stirpot:

    I will be making a point of watching the video above - looks very interesting.
     
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