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2 flies on the ceiling...PANIC!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba' started by InkDiver, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. Boxcar Overkill

    Boxcar Overkill Barracuda

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    One could also see this as an excellent example of why one shouldn't have their hoses wrapped under their equipment and coiled around their body. If the taking diver comes at you panicked and with saucer eyes, they may not wait for you to uncoil the hose and gently hand the reg to them.

    I guess what I'm saying is there's no reason to turn this into another "donate the primary or octo" debate threads, is there? Because it will then inevitably evolve into a "I'm not telling you my way is the only right way to dive... but if you don't acknowledge that my way is the best, I'll accuse you of spreading misinformation, imply your a liar, etc." thread.

    It's probably easiest just to say that there is more than one opinion about how hoses should best be routed, and leave it at that.
     
  2. JoyfulNoise

    JoyfulNoise Manta Ray

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    I finally figured out OOA is out of air with the help of my husband. Is there a spot on the forum that lists all the terms like this? I did a search with no luck, any help appreciated.
     
  3. UnderSeaBumbleBee

    UnderSeaBumbleBee Solo Diver

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    Very nice write up Ink. We can never be reminded enough that an emergency just might find us.

    My buddy and I started doing air shares both planned and unplanned on every dive. It pays to keep your skills sharp.
     
  4. pennypue

    pennypue Solo Diver

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    lol, you don't want to turn this into a debate....and yet you still want to have your say first....just that you think no one with a differing mindset should respond??

    Come on. Really. Have you ever dove with your 'hoses wrapped under their(sic) equipment and coiled around their body"? If you had, you'd know how silly this statement really is. I dive with a seven foot hose that comes off my post down the right side of my body, under my can light, across my body, around the back of my neck and into my mouth. And if you want to grab it directly out of my mouth you're more than welcome to do so. You would not leave me without air, AND you would be getting more hose length immediately than you would off a short standard open water setup.

    Try diving it. THEN comment. :rolleyes:
     
  5. UnderSeaBumbleBee

    UnderSeaBumbleBee Solo Diver

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    OOA or OOG out of air or gas

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    DORK They are their own breed and meaning changes daily, but they have a good time doing what ever it is that they do.

    Bp/w Back plate and wing

    TOS Terms of Service ie the rules for being allowed to post on the board and be part of the SB (Scuba Board) community

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    there are many more. Just post and ask when you see them and folks will fill you in. New ones come along all the time
     
  6. ucfdiver

    ucfdiver DIR Practitioner

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    You should try diving with a long hose, or someone who does. I think you'll find things work as advertised. If you snatch my long hose during a dive, it automatically comes from behind my neck, because there's nothing back there to catch it. From there, you have about 3ft of hose that we can calm things down and untuck the rest of the hose from the canister light.

    Here's a video of exactly how it works. If you'll notice, the OOA diver could have just as easily grabbed the 2nd stage as the person donating did.
    Dive Tek Videos

    This area of the forum is full of new divers, let's be sure to not spread misinformation, please.
     
  7. ZenDiver.3D

    ZenDiver.3D Rejecting Reality ScubaBoard Sponsor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    very nice video
     
  8. Boxcar Overkill

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    Have you been reading this thread?

    I was responding to the two people who were implying this example proves that donating the primary is the safest way to dive. I pointed out that there are other opinions, and we don't have to get into another long debate about it. One side of the debate was already stated, I said there's another side, and we don't necessarily have to re-argue it. But I can see some people are content with that.

    I have dived with a long hose, I do dive with a long hose, and I will dive with a long hose. I have dived it as my primary, I have dived it as my octo. I have dived with it behind my head, and I have dived with it bungied to my tank. Right now, I dive a 5 foot hose as my octo, because I find that configuration superior.

    I know there are people who won't accept that for an answer. If I don't agree that their way is the best way, than I am accused of spreading misinformation. The next step is always the accusation that I haven't really tried it. But the fact is, having tried both, I don't just don't agree.

    I could go into all the reasons that I find having my long hose on my octo superior, but as I said, I don't think we need to turn yet another thread that direction. I accept the fact that you, like many here, like diving with a long hose primary. I know you think that way is superior, and I wont accuse you of spreading misinformation because of your choices. All I ask is the same courtesy in return. Just as there are those in this thread who are critical of the "donate the octo" method, there are also those that are critical of the "wrap the hose under your canister and behind your neck" method, and s that doesn't make either camp liars, spreaders of misinformation, or ignorant.



    EDIT: Sorry if I sounded too defensive in my response, UFC. If I had it to do over again, I would would have used a less aggressive tone. I'll try to watch that in the future. My apologies.
     
  9. scubaren

    scubaren Loggerhead Turtle

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    Great video. I had never seen this done. Anyone know of cons? it all looks good to me.
    I started out with an AIR II as a new diver. I have since gone to an octo for better BC control in the event of an OOA emergency. I wasn't aware of this possibility. Very interesting.
     
  10. John_B

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    LOL, here we go again! Boxcar plays himself off as such the long hose expert but every time he tries to make his case its painfully obvious that he has no clue how it actually works and that he has no actual experience with it IRL. :lotsalove:

    Boxcar, some of us do s-drills at the start of every dive where we actually practice deploying the long hose, it's very easy to deploy. And the bungeed backup would've really helped the diver who got mugged for his primary, because the reg he needs to go to is literally right under this chin. These divers could be mentored in how to do s-drills, etc. in part of an afternoon.

    We don't care how you setup your own regs, really we don't. But it would nice if you would refrain from spreading FUD about things you know nothing about.
     

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