Another Trip Report - TIR 8/15 to 8/22

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Qnape

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Three of us spent a week at TIR 8/15 to 8/22; my daughter (15) and I diving and my wife relaxing and snorkeling. Overall, our time there was as pleasant as we could have hoped for.

Practically, TIR is not as difficult to get to as its remote location might suggest. We flew direct from Newark, NJ to Belize City and easily found TIR’s representatives who quickly arranged transportation to the dock at the Princess Hotel and Casino. As others have said, the Princess is not someplace we would want to stay, and we spoke with another guest who made that mistake. They were very disappointed and described a filthy swimming pool and other issues they observed. The high prices at the Calypso restaurant / bar did not stop us from enjoying a cool drink or two to pass the time, but a/c would indeed have been nice after traveling. Oddly, we learned that TIR is on its own time zone one hour different than Belize City.

Our transfer to the island on the Miss Bella was pleasant, and the ice cold towel and punch upon boarding was welcome and refreshing. The Miss Bella, like all TIR’s boats, seemed well maintained and equipped, and well chosen for their tasks. It seemed to me that for such a small resort, their fleet was large and modern - a lot of $ spent here.

Most of our fellow travelers were divers; there were a few who combined fishing and diving and one couple who were there on the fishing package. My wife and a few other guests accompanying divers were beachcombers / snorkelers. Weather for the trip was pretty consistent; 92F with winds between 10 and 20 knots. We saw a few thunderstorms around, but only felt a few drops all week. Water conservation is important on the island, and we were told they had seen very little rain recently. The Resort Managers Karen and Jason were very helpful throughout our stay and briefed guests about the resort upon arrival. Jason participated on several dives, and is a very good kite-boarder! He joined us for several meals and was great company. We all felt the food was awesome; tasty, plentiful and fresh. Served family style, meals are announced with a ship’s bell and each is a friendly conversation filled experience. No-one had any significant complaints or ever felt hungry and snacks water and lemonade were nearly always available.

The accommodations are attractive and well cared for. We stayed in a two room building near the docks - very convenient for diving. While not as large as some we have seen, they are not claustrophobic with high ceilings. The a/c works well but can be a bit loud, especially as it cycles on and off in energy saver mode. I especially appreciated the large outdoor shower; it seemed awesome to me to sip coffee delivered to our doorstep at 6:30- a.m. in the shower while looking up at the palm trees. The resort is meticulously landscaped, with flowers and ornamental plants of all sorts everywhere you look. Everyday grounds keepers could be seen watering, pruning, planting, and raking the sand. Bugs were never an issue on the island - neither mosquitos or no-see-ums. The near constant breeze helps this, and keeps the high temperature bearable.

As described by others, the divers were assigned to a boat / DM for the week. My daughter and I were assigned to Daniel, and were pleased by his knowledge of the dive sites and their resident creatures, pretty good dive briefings and attentiveness. No-one on our boat dove with Nitrox except for the DM. He routinely checked remaining air for newer divers and reminded us during the briefings to be wary of our NDL during our second / third dives each day. Daniel tried hard to locate and point out more interesting creatures, including nearly perfectly camouflage scorpionfish, drums, and toadfish. One pair of divers who had some air consumption issues often stayed shallower through many of our dives, but all dives were done essentially as a group.

Many dives were on walls, some on highly structured sections of reef. We saw many healthy staghorn coral colonies, some larger than any I’d seen before. Healthy elkhorn corals were seen in some areas. Similarly, many barrel and tube sponges were larger and more robust than I’ve seen in Cozumel or Utila. That said, the visibility, especially during the first part of our week, was less than ideal, ranging from 40 to 60'. We changed dive sites “on the fly” a few times because Daniel felt the visibility was unacceptable. Fine particulates and small pieces of vegetation marred many photographs with backscatter, and in some cases had settled and coated the surface of large sponges. Jason could occasionally be seen at the rear of a dive group, carefully clearing off the surface of some of the largest sponges. I was told at some point that there may have been some dredging somewhere nearby resulting in the poor vis. In any case, conditions seemed to be clearing as our stay progressed and was best out at the Elbow and during the 2nd and 3rd dives on the Blue Hole trip.

The Elbow was particularly fascinating, with large schools of fish including game fish such as permit. Conditions were a bit challenging on one dive there - pretty big waves to make things exciting, but that was more than made up for by the number and variety of fish. Large tarpon were seen on many of our dives, along with barracuda. Spotted and green morays were abundant on many dive sites, along with juvenile and adult spotted drums, trunkfish and trumpetfish. I have never seen a hogfish even ½ the size of a few we saw there, and one more moderately sized individual posed nicely while being cleaned. We saw two smallish lionfish during our trip - I’ve posted a photo. They were killed, but obviously they are in the area to stay. Our night dive was interesting, with decent visibility and some variety of critters about including lobster, crabs (and one of the largest hermits I’ve seen), and a few basket stars. The blood worms swarmed white lights mercilessly, interfering with photography and being just generally annoying. I felt as though they were squirming into my wetsuit sleeve; my daughter told me she felt like they were trying to get into her ear - not a calming feeling at 60' at night. The timing of the night dive was immediately after dinner, at 8:00 p.m., so it was full dark on the way out. The weather was clear - so the stars provided quite a show for those of us from near big cities.

The Blue Hole Dive lived up to its reputation; dark, a quick bounce to 135'. About 3/4 of the two dive groups went all the way; the rest formed a third group that stopped at about 60'. All divers going deep were told to stay to 130' but most who went to the “bottom” actually went to 135' to 138' in order to comfortably swim through a few stalactites. There were plenty of sharks to accompany us on the way up and down - they seemed accustomed to divers in the water and swam to within a few feet of us. Daniel warned that if any appeared aggressive, we should form up in a circle, with him in the middle. :D We arrived at the hole early, before the dive boats from Ambergris Caye and the Aggressor. We had finished our picnic lunch at Half Moon Caye and were visiting with the Red-Footed Boobies before the Aggressor and other boats joined us there.

My buddy (my daughter) made a possibly serious error on her last dive of the week. She is a fish, returning from every dive with in excess of ½ a tank of gas. I was approaching my NDL after 40 minutes or so (I had been a bit deeper than most early in the dive), let my daughter and the divemaster know and paired /buddied them up, and ascended to about 27' to shadow the group; I was joined by more divers as the dive progressed and more of us ran out of NDL but not gas. I was watching my daughter at about 50' and signaled her several times to check her computer - she repeatedly responded that everything was fine. Eventually I realized that she HAD to be at or over her NDL and got her attention to meet me half-way, vertically. I checked her computer, and sure enough, she had earned an 18 minute decompression stop with a ceiling of 10'. I smacked myself (and her) on the forehead. Gas was no issue at all for her, but I do not have her consumption and would not have been able to stay with her. I signaled her to 15" and got Daniel’s attention. After smacking his own forehead (he should have realized, as I did, that she HAD to be beyond NDL and at that point was buddied with her), he stayed down with her for the next 20 minutes playing tic-tac-toe and drawing caricatures on his slate, so that I could ascend. Thank you, Daniel. After explaining what was going on to the rest of the divers (already on board the boat), we waited and planned a fin gauntlet for my daughter. She still managed to ascend (after 82 minutes and more than a bit embarrassed) with 1300 psi. Go figure. As long as she remembers; dad won't always be her buddy.

That last evening we enjoyed a tasty beach BBQ (ribs, chicken, veggie ka-bobs, etc..). After the BBQ, TIR holds its hermit crab races, which proved to be amusing for all. There certainly is no shortage of the critters on the island - they can be found nearly everywhere after nightfall in groups and walking about. Watch your step! Aside from the crabs, watch for several types of lizard, frigate birds and a surprising number of hummingbirds attracted to the many flowering plants and the palm trees.

For those of you with landlubber SO’s a few words about my wife’s experience might be helpful. As a novice snorkeler, she was reluctant to go out on their daily trips at first, but gained confidence with the assistance of the snorkel guides. She eventually made it out on 7 snorkeling trips, and is more comfortable in the water and on boats than before our trip. If a novice snorkeler required some assistance, the staff supplied a tethered float and some fin power until they became more capable. The snorkeling sites are varied and close by, and generally inside the reefs so any wave action / current is mitigated for snorkeling. My daughter and I joined several of the snorkel trips after diving so we all had a great time together. My wife also enjoyed a massage during her stay, and was most pleased with that. She loved the layout of the resort, the relaxed atmosphere and camaraderie of the pool bar and dining room, and the many relaxing locations along the beach and resort she found to read and enjoy the sun. To use her words, there was a hammock or lounge chair at every turn, whenever she wanted one. No rush to reserve lounge chairs at 6:00 a.m. here! The morning coffee / tea service, excellent conversation filled meals, pleasant times at the pool and pool bar, evening turn-down service (and a poem on hand wax-sealed stationary each evening) - this resort has changed her opinions regarding a “dive resort” and made her more open to such locations for the future (hooray for me!). TIR stays on our short list for a return trip.:D:D
 

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Thanks for that. It brought back a lot of wonderful memories of our stay there last year.

I have a couple of questions:

TIR didn't offer massages when we were there, but they were talking about starting up the service. Did they hire a massage therapist or train a staff member? Are the massages in your room/cabana? Just curious.

Jason and Karen were the assistant managers when we were there and were just coming off their "probationary period." I'm sure they make for excellent managers. Did TIR hire new assistant managers? I'm guessing not. Karen, especially, was always multi-tasking, and I was impressed with how well she handled it.

Btw, a decent place to stay in Belize City, for those of us who have to fly in a day early in order to be on time for the boat ride, is The Great House. It's across the street from the Radisson, about a mile away from the Princess.

Emphasis on "decent." Not great. There's not much in the way of services, but at least the place is clean, comfortable and safe with 24-hour security on site. The GH has a very pleasant outdoor restaurant, The Smoky Mermaid, and there are another couple of restaurants across the street associated with the Radisson. There's also an adequate bakery next door. TIR takes care of the transportation from the airport and again the next day to the dock. Much, much better than staying at that creepy Princess.

We're headed back next year. We'll probably make TIR an every other year dive vacation.
 
Thanks for that. It brought back a lot of wonderful memories of our stay there last year.

I have a couple of questions:

TIR didn't have massages when we were there, but they were talking about starting up the service. Did they hire a massage therapist or train a staff member? Are the massages in your room/cabana? Just curious.

Jason and Karen were the assistant managers when we were there and were just coming off their "probationary period." I'm sure they make for excellent managers. Did TIR hire new assistant managers? I'm guessing not. Karen, especially, was always multi-tasking, and I was impressed with how well she handled it.

Btw, a decent place to stay in Belize City, for those of us who have to fly in a day early in order to be on time for the boat ride, is The Great House. It's across the street from the Radisson, about a mile away from the Princess.

We're headed back next year. We'll probably make TIR an every other year dive vacation.

They have hired a massage therapist. We hope things work out for them in this regard; Karen mentioned that few people during our stay took advantage of the service and was pleased when my wife booked her massage - which she enjoyed a lot. The massage was in a "spa building" which I did not see - I'll ask my wife for her comments about the facility and post an additional comment later.

Jason and Karen seemed comfortable in their roles as managers, although Karen did comment that she was not getting to spend as much time with the guests as she would like due to the business requirements of the job. She was definately multi-tasking, but there is a lot to do. She is certainly an enthusiatic manager! During the check-out process, she had to ask us to come back as she had to close the office for a bit due to an unexpected visit from the Belizian Coast Guard - of course, I said, you always take care of the guy with the assault rifle first. She was very apologetic, although there was no need for her to be. While we were there, new "assistant managers" arrived which pleased Karen to no end.

I have been in touch with them since our return due to my own brainlessness in packing up to come home. We managed to foolishly leave our wetsuits drying on hangers at the diveshop. Karen found them for us, and is having them shipped to us. She did not hesitate to help us out in this regard, and I am very grateful for her help - the shipping cost it a lot less than 2 new Henderson 3mm suits!

We would love to return to TIF; I can only hope that they have a similar special rate available in a year or two.:D
 
I Enjoyed your detailed and useful report Qnape. It contains some very useful information. Reading about your daughter & wife added to the entertainment! Great pictures too!
 
Nice report!

The incident with your daughter is one of those things that happens to every diver once they get good on air. Glad there was someone there to handle it with her. I had it happen to me our last trip to Cozumel, on the last day, our second dive, I was deeper than the rest of the group, trying to get away from crowd, and not watching my gauges as carefully as I should. I had plenty of air and didn't think I was clsoe to deco. People started up for safety stop and I moved that direction taking my time. Oops, my computer suddenly gave me a ceiling! I ended up being last onboard the boat, by only a few minutes, but the DM was mad. I really didn't know what to say to him either..:depressed:
 
My buddy (my daughter) made a possibly serious error on her last dive of the week. She is a fish, returning from every dive with in excess of ½ a tank of gas. I was approaching my NDL after 40 minutes or so (I had been a bit deeper than most early in the dive), let my daughter and the divemaster know and paired /buddied them up, and ascended to about 27' to shadow the group; I was joined by more divers as the dive progressed and more of us ran out of NDL but not gas. I was watching my daughter at about 50' and signaled her several times to check her computer - she repeatedly responded that everything was fine. Eventually I realized that she HAD to be at or over her NDL and got her attention to meet me half-way, vertically. I checked her computer, and sure enough, she had earned an 18 minute decompression stop with a ceiling of 10'. I smacked myself (and her) on the forehead. Gas was no issue at all for her, but I do not have her consumption and would not have been able to stay with her. I signaled her to 15" and got Daniel’s attention. After smacking his own forehead (he should have realized, as I did, that she HAD to be beyond NDL and at that point was buddied with her), he stayed down with her for the next 20 minutes playing tic-tac-toe and drawing caricatures on his slate, so that I could ascend. Thank you, Daniel. After explaining what was going on to the rest of the divers (already on board the boat), we waited and planned a fin gauntlet for my daughter. She still managed to ascend (after 82 minutes and more than a bit embarrassed) with 1300 psi. Go figure. As long as she remembers; dad won't always be her buddy.


Can you tell us what computer she was diving, and was it different than the one you are using? I dive a Cobra 2, and my wife dives an Atmos Aeris, and there is a world of difference in our deco calculations, even when diving identical profiles. As much as I hate to admit, I had a similar situation once, on the second dive with my Cobra, when it "fooled" me, compared to how I expected it to work, using my prior computer (also a Suunto, but an Eon) as a example. Did two dives, first no deeper than 90', second to about 70', and ended up with fifteen minutes of hang time. Fortunately my wonderful, loving dive buddy and I had been working on air management, so we had the gas to do it, but it was embarrassing to get back on the boat, knowing those folks had been inconvenienced by my screw-up.

Loved your report, and the description of the diving. We dove Belize, from Turneffe Flats, a little over a year ago, and I started feeling homesick reading your report.
 
TIR didn't offer massages when we were there, but they were talking about starting up the service. Did they hire a massage therapist or train a staff member? Are the massages in your room/cabana? Just curious.


The massage was given in a separate dedicated spa building. Nothing large or fancy, my wife said, but clean and nice. I did notice that they provided a menu of services in the ornate guest book found in each room, along with information on the fishing, diving, and other services available. There is also a page explaining their recommendations on tips. I concur with previous reports that the recommended tips seemed high in some areas, and not in others.
 
The incident with your daughter is one of those things that happens to every diver once they get good on air. Glad there was someone there to handle it with her. I had it happen to me our last trip to Cozumel, on the last day, our second dive, I was deeper than the rest of the group, trying to get away from crowd, and not watching my gauges as carefully as I should. I had plenty of air and didn't think I was clsoe to deco. People started up for safety stop and I moved that direction taking my time. Oops, my computer suddenly gave me a ceiling! I ended up being last onboard the boat, by only a few minutes, but the DM was mad. I really didn't know what to say to him either..:depressed:

Can you tell us what computer she was diving, and was it different than the one you are using? I dive a Cobra 2, and my wife dives an Atmos Aeris, and there is a world of difference in our deco calculations, even when diving identical profiles. As much as I hate to admit, I had a similar situation once, on the second dive with my Cobra, when it "fooled" me, compared to how I expected it to work, using my prior computer (also a Suunto, but an Eon) as a example. Did two dives, first no deeper than 90', second to about 70', and ended up with fifteen minutes of hang time. Fortunately my wonderful, loving dive buddy and I had been working on air management, so we had the gas to do it, but it was embarrassing to get back on the boat, knowing those folks had been inconvenienced by my screw-up.


You are absolutely correct, robin - I'm not there yet, but found myself coming up last with my daughter on at least a few dives this trip. On our first dive trip to Cozumel this February I was fortunately able to switch to AL100's because I sucked so much air!

We dive identical Suunto Cobras. I've been lazy and will download the profiles this weekend. First dive was to 75', second was supposed to be to 60 - but i was at 73 for a few minutes early in the dive photographing a spotted moray, so was not surprized to approach my NDL before she did. I let her know I was moving up to 30 or so, but it took me too long to realize she had must be at or over her limit. Too late to save her the hang time! Good thing Daniel had the air; I'm confident she could have and would have stayed under the ceiling for the time required by herself but I was REAL glad he could stay. As it was I was last up aside from them. Good thing we had a friendly group that had been diving with each other all week; they cut her lots of slack aside from lots of good natured ribbing. It was suggested that they rename the site "Christine's folly". After all, according to Daniel the first dive site that day, "Gail's Point", was named after a guest after she dove the site "au naturel"! :D:D
 
A dedicated building. Hmmm. I wonder if TIR built it after our stay. We were in Cabana 8, the last one down the line, and there would be plenty of space to put in a new building past the cabana before rounding the curve of the island. Otherwise, I can't think of where they might put it if it were new or where it would be if it was already built when we were there.

Interesting. Thanks for the update.

I also dive with a Cobra2 and it's far more conservative than my wife and son's Oceanics as I just discovered while diving the Florida Keys. The learning curve on the Cobra2 is pretty steep--at least for me, ahem--but I think I'm going to sit down with the manual soon and see if I can't make it a little less conservative so it will match up better with the Oceanics. I dived with the Oceanic for a couple of years with no issues before handing it down to my son.

As far as the tips, we stayed for two weeks so I remember the tips were fairly substantial. I think I tipped at the top of the range for everybody but added more to the tips for Brad and Marcel. It hurt at the time but the staff were all great to us, plus Belize is such a poor country that I knew they really needed and would appreciate it.
 
A dedicated building. Hmmm. I wonder if TIR built it after our stay. We were in Cabana 8, the last one down the line, and there would be plenty of space to put in a new building past the cabana before rounding the curve of the island. Otherwise, I can't think of where they might put it if it were new or where it would be if it was already built when we were there.

Interesting. Thanks for the update.



The building is behind and to the right of the lodge (behind the first building to the right of the lodge, which is where the owner's son was staying during our trip).

I only know of 2 people that got massages during our week on the island.
 
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